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Attributes | |
ACN | 746429 |
Time | |
Date | 200707 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B717 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 27l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 746429 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATIS says landing west; so we program ILS 26R into FMS (due to direction of flight inbound) and brief approach. We check in with atl approach and he says to expect ILS to 27L. I then rebrief ILS to runway 27L and first officer reprograms FMS. At about 20-25 mi out; we are given a 250 degree heading cleared for ILS runway 27L. We get 'no localizer' on primary flight display. First officer then re-inserts ILS runway 27L; still 'no localizer.' first officer inserts ILS runway 27L and is successful third time (we are VMC). As the localizer comes alive we are 1 - 1 1/2 dots left of course. As I turn right to reintercept; ATC says that we are south of course; turn to 300 degrees to reintercept localizer; cleared ILS runway 27L. And we do. No further issues. I believed that the first officer felt rushed and was having problems reinserting ILS runway 27L into FMS. It seems that by inserting the approach into the FMS prior to being given the runway was a factor; as it takes more time to change it than initially inserting it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B717 FIRST OFFICER HAS DIFFICULTIES CORRECTLY INSERTING NEW RWY AND ILS APPROACH INTO FMC AFTER RWY CHANGE ON APPROACH TO ATL.
Narrative: ATIS SAYS LNDG W; SO WE PROGRAM ILS 26R INTO FMS (DUE TO DIRECTION OF FLT INBOUND) AND BRIEF APCH. WE CHK IN WITH ATL APCH AND HE SAYS TO EXPECT ILS TO 27L. I THEN REBRIEF ILS TO RWY 27L AND FO REPROGRAMS FMS. AT ABOUT 20-25 MI OUT; WE ARE GIVEN A 250 DEG HDG CLRED FOR ILS RWY 27L. WE GET 'NO LOC' ON PRIMARY FLT DISPLAY. FO THEN RE-INSERTS ILS RWY 27L; STILL 'NO LOC.' FO INSERTS ILS RWY 27L AND IS SUCCESSFUL THIRD TIME (WE ARE VMC). AS THE LOC COMES ALIVE WE ARE 1 - 1 1/2 DOTS L OF COURSE. AS I TURN R TO REINTERCEPT; ATC SAYS THAT WE ARE S OF COURSE; TURN TO 300 DEGS TO REINTERCEPT LOC; CLRED ILS RWY 27L. AND WE DO. NO FURTHER ISSUES. I BELIEVED THAT THE FO FELT RUSHED AND WAS HAVING PROBS REINSERTING ILS RWY 27L INTO FMS. IT SEEMS THAT BY INSERTING THE APCH INTO THE FMS PRIOR TO BEING GIVEN THE RWY WAS A FACTOR; AS IT TAKES MORE TIME TO CHANGE IT THAN INITIALLY INSERTING IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.