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Attributes | |
ACN | 748601 |
Time | |
Date | 200708 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 1l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 748601 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to original clearance none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On vectors; but not cleared to intercept the localizer 1L at iad; controller forgot about us; and overshot us about 3 mi east of the localizer course for runway 1R! He apologized; then cleared us to turn back left and intercept the localizer 1L for the visual approach. Controller was apparently distraction; and asked another aircraft where they were parking at manassas; and if they wanted runway 34L or runway 34R at manassas. Controller also forgot to switch us to tower; which we accomplished on our own at 800 ft AGL on short final. It seems that priorities may have gotten out of whack. But a B777 is a large; heavy aircraft; and losing awareness of its position at 3000 ft; shooting across 2 active runway locs before realizing he had forgotten us; is unsatisfactory.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 LNDG IAD ALLEGES PCT CTLR FAILED TO TURN ACFT ON FINAL; PASSING 2 FINAL APCHS; BEFORE HAVING TO REMIND CTLR OF SAME.
Narrative: ON VECTORS; BUT NOT CLRED TO INTERCEPT THE LOC 1L AT IAD; CTLR FORGOT ABOUT US; AND OVERSHOT US ABOUT 3 MI E OF THE LOC COURSE FOR RWY 1R! HE APOLOGIZED; THEN CLRED US TO TURN BACK L AND INTERCEPT THE LOC 1L FOR THE VISUAL APCH. CTLR WAS APPARENTLY DISTR; AND ASKED ANOTHER ACFT WHERE THEY WERE PARKING AT MANASSAS; AND IF THEY WANTED RWY 34L OR RWY 34R AT MANASSAS. CTLR ALSO FORGOT TO SWITCH US TO TWR; WHICH WE ACCOMPLISHED ON OUR OWN AT 800 FT AGL ON SHORT FINAL. IT SEEMS THAT PRIORITIES MAY HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF WHACK. BUT A B777 IS A LARGE; HVY ACFT; AND LOSING AWARENESS OF ITS POS AT 3000 FT; SHOOTING ACROSS 2 ACTIVE RWY LOCS BEFORE REALIZING HE HAD FORGOTTEN US; IS UNSATISFACTORY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.