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Attributes | |
ACN | 749482 |
Time | |
Date | 200708 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jax.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : jax.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : n/s |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : jax.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | M-20 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 749482 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I complied with all ATC instructions. I descended to 10000 ft. We were advised of traffic at 9000 ft and 9500 ft but were not aware of their direction of flight. Our TCAS display showed closure when the other aircraft symbol turned solid blue. The approach controller advised the mooney that traffic was a crj (us) passing overhead 500 ft; our TCAS was turning yellow 'traffic traffic.' there was too much chatter to get a turn or change in altitude. When other aircraft turned red and we got RA I had already disconnected autoplt and added thrust to begin deviation. At RA I climbed immediately. Why do controllers think 500 ft of 'clearance' is enough?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ PILOT ON DESCENT INTO JAX HAD AN NMAC WITH A MOONEY.
Narrative: I COMPLIED WITH ALL ATC INSTRUCTIONS. I DSNDED TO 10000 FT. WE WERE ADVISED OF TFC AT 9000 FT AND 9500 FT BUT WERE NOT AWARE OF THEIR DIRECTION OF FLT. OUR TCAS DISPLAY SHOWED CLOSURE WHEN THE OTHER ACFT SYMBOL TURNED SOLID BLUE. THE APCH CTLR ADVISED THE MOONEY THAT TFC WAS A CRJ (US) PASSING OVERHEAD 500 FT; OUR TCAS WAS TURNING YELLOW 'TFC TFC.' THERE WAS TOO MUCH CHATTER TO GET A TURN OR CHANGE IN ALT. WHEN OTHER ACFT TURNED RED AND WE GOT RA I HAD ALREADY DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND ADDED THRUST TO BEGIN DEV. AT RA I CLBED IMMEDIATELY. WHY DO CTLRS THINK 500 FT OF 'CLRNC' IS ENOUGH?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.