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Attributes | |
ACN | 749869 |
Time | |
Date | 200708 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Citation Excel |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 749869 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After liftoff from runway 24 we were switched over to departure. The PF was the first officer and the captain the PNF. While switching over to departure the first officer noted a problem with the #2 FMS. I checked on with new york level 1500 ft; and then proceeded to check the #2 FMS. Then comes the confusion. The first officer asked what the next fix was and I stated at 4.5 DME then climb to 2000 ft. Next thing I know the aircraft is level at 2000 ft at 3 DME. New york saw it as fast as I did and noted the error. There were no traffic conflicts and ATC stated no harm no foul just don't let it happen again. The confusion was what was asked and what was heard. We have discussed it and decided the best action would be to read back all questions to relieve confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CITATION XLS FLT CREW EXPERIENCED FMS PROBLEM AS THEY LEVELED AT INITIAL ALT ON THE TEB DEP. WHILE INVESTIGATING THE PROBLEM; THEY PREMATURELY CLIMBED TO THE NEXT ALT ON THE SID.
Narrative: AFTER LIFTOFF FROM RWY 24 WE WERE SWITCHED OVER TO DEP. THE PF WAS THE FO AND THE CAPT THE PNF. WHILE SWITCHING OVER TO DEP THE FO NOTED A PROBLEM WITH THE #2 FMS. I CHECKED ON WITH NEW YORK LEVEL 1500 FT; AND THEN PROCEEDED TO CHECK THE #2 FMS. THEN COMES THE CONFUSION. THE FO ASKED WHAT THE NEXT FIX WAS AND I STATED AT 4.5 DME THEN CLIMB TO 2000 FT. NEXT THING I KNOW THE ACFT IS LEVEL AT 2000 FT AT 3 DME. NEW YORK SAW IT AS FAST AS I DID AND NOTED THE ERROR. THERE WERE NO TFC CONFLICTS AND ATC STATED NO HARM NO FOUL JUST DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN. THE CONFUSION WAS WHAT WAS ASKED AND WHAT WAS HEARD. WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT AND DECIDED THE BEST ACTION WOULD BE TO READ BACK ALL QUESTIONS TO RELIEVE CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.