37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 755066 |
Time | |
Date | 200709 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 07r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 755066 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were getting vectors to final approach for ZZZ runway 7R. The initial heading was a dogleg heading from the south. We were given a descent to 2000 ft. As we neared the final course; approach informed us that we would be vectored across final for spacing. (In the end it appeared that there was a light aircraft fit in the approach line.) after crossing final; we received a turn to intercept the localizer from the north. We intercepted at approximately 30 mi while still in the descent. After intercepting the localizer and leveling at 2000 ft; we received a TCAS TA of traffic 100 ft below; at 1 mi in our 10 O'clock position. The traffic appeared to be closing on our position. At this point we were about 20 DME (15 mi from abc). I was about to take emergency action and break off the approach to the south when we came out of the clouds. The first officer and the relief pilot both spotted the traffic. I looked and spotted the described aircraft also. It was at our altitude heading straight for us. We then received an RA to descend at 500 FPM. The aircraft broke to the right (west). I had the aircraft in sight and was hesitant to descend into the clouds. The RA went away a moment later and we re-entered the clouds. The first officer informed approach control of the aircraft description and last known position/heading. The rest of the approach was continued without incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR PILOT RPTS A DSNDING RA WHILE IMC AT 2000 FT ON AN ILS APCH. ATC DID NOT CALL TFC AND CREW DID NOT DSND BECAUSE OF TERRAIN AND LOWER CLOUDS.
Narrative: WE WERE GETTING VECTORS TO FINAL APCH FOR ZZZ RWY 7R. THE INITIAL HDG WAS A DOGLEG HDG FROM THE S. WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT TO 2000 FT. AS WE NEARED THE FINAL COURSE; APCH INFORMED US THAT WE WOULD BE VECTORED ACROSS FINAL FOR SPACING. (IN THE END IT APPEARED THAT THERE WAS A LIGHT ACFT FIT IN THE APCH LINE.) AFTER XING FINAL; WE RECEIVED A TURN TO INTERCEPT THE LOC FROM THE N. WE INTERCEPTED AT APPROX 30 MI WHILE STILL IN THE DSCNT. AFTER INTERCEPTING THE LOC AND LEVELING AT 2000 FT; WE RECEIVED A TCAS TA OF TFC 100 FT BELOW; AT 1 MI IN OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS. THE TFC APPEARED TO BE CLOSING ON OUR POS. AT THIS POINT WE WERE ABOUT 20 DME (15 MI FROM ABC). I WAS ABOUT TO TAKE EMER ACTION AND BREAK OFF THE APCH TO THE S WHEN WE CAME OUT OF THE CLOUDS. THE FO AND THE RELIEF PLT BOTH SPOTTED THE TFC. I LOOKED AND SPOTTED THE DESCRIBED ACFT ALSO. IT WAS AT OUR ALT HEADING STRAIGHT FOR US. WE THEN RECEIVED AN RA TO DSND AT 500 FPM. THE ACFT BROKE TO THE R (W). I HAD THE ACFT IN SIGHT AND WAS HESITANT TO DSND INTO THE CLOUDS. THE RA WENT AWAY A MOMENT LATER AND WE RE-ENTERED THE CLOUDS. THE FO INFORMED APCH CTL OF THE ACFT DESCRIPTION AND LAST KNOWN POS/HDG. THE REST OF THE APCH WAS CONTINUED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.