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Falcon 900 captain reports difficulties transitioning to runway 24R from runway 25L at lax; after clearance change by sct.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 755845 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200709 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Falcon 900 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 755845 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Socal switched us from runway 25L to runway 24R. We unintentionally missed turn to right prior to having the arrival to runway 24R loaded. We corrected back to new arrival.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated he had flown into lax previously and was aware of the problems with runway changes. He operates several different aircraft types with different fmcs; and this makes quick reactions to clearance changes difficult.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FALCON 900 CAPT RPTS DIFFICULTIES TRANSITIONING TO RWY 24R FROM RWY 25L AT LAX; AFTER CLRNC CHANGE BY SCT.
Narrative: SOCAL SWITCHED US FROM RWY 25L TO RWY 24R. WE UNINTENTIONALLY MISSED TURN TO R PRIOR TO HAVING THE ARR TO RWY 24R LOADED. WE CORRECTED BACK TO NEW ARR.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED HE HAD FLOWN INTO LAX PREVIOUSLY AND WAS AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH RWY CHANGES. HE OPERATES SEVERAL DIFFERENT ACFT TYPES WITH DIFFERENT FMCS; AND THIS MAKES QUICK REACTIONS TO CLRNC CHANGES DIFFICULT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.