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Attributes | |
ACN | 757581 |
Time | |
Date | 200710 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 2 Eng Retractable Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 400 flight time type : 75 |
ASRS Report | 757581 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When we picked up our clearance from teb; they gave us the teb 5 departure. We advised them if we could get vectors instead because we didn't want a departure procedure; but we ended up having to do one. I was assisting the two pilots from the back seat; and reviewed the teb 5 departure with the two pilots flying to make sure everything was squared away. Once we reviewed the procedure and everyone felt comfortable with everything because it was our first time flying into the new york area; we got our takeoff clearance and departed. Once airborne; the distance from the airport wasn't showing up on the G-1000; and ended up busting an altitude restr. ATC vectored us and explained to us what we did wrong. The teb 5 departure was an easy departure procedure and everyone aboard knew how to do it; but the distance failed to show up on the G-1000. Once we got it showing; it was too late; and ended up busting the altitude restr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REAR SEAT PAX IN LIGHT TWIN TURBOPROP RPTS FAILURE TO MEET CROSSING RESTR ON THE TEB SID FROM TEB.
Narrative: WHEN WE PICKED UP OUR CLRNC FROM TEB; THEY GAVE US THE TEB 5 DEP. WE ADVISED THEM IF WE COULD GET VECTORS INSTEAD BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT A DEP PROC; BUT WE ENDED UP HAVING TO DO ONE. I WAS ASSISTING THE TWO PLTS FROM THE BACK SEAT; AND REVIEWED THE TEB 5 DEP WITH THE TWO PLTS FLYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS SQUARED AWAY. ONCE WE REVIEWED THE PROC AND EVERYONE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS OUR FIRST TIME FLYING INTO THE NEW YORK AREA; WE GOT OUR TAKEOFF CLRNC AND DEPARTED. ONCE AIRBORNE; THE DISTANCE FROM THE ARPT WASN'T SHOWING UP ON THE G-1000; AND ENDED UP BUSTING AN ALTITUDE RESTR. ATC VECTORED US AND EXPLAINED TO US WHAT WE DID WRONG. THE TEB 5 DEP WAS AN EASY DEP PROC AND EVERYONE ABOARD KNEW HOW TO DO IT; BUT THE DISTANCE FAILED TO SHOW UP ON THE G-1000. ONCE WE GOT IT SHOWING; IT WAS TOO LATE; AND ENDED UP BUSTING THE ALTITUDE RESTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.