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Attributes | |
ACN | 757792 |
Time | |
Date | 200710 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ztl.artcc |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : johns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 757792 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
While level at FL290 approaching flabb intersection on arrival to clt (JOHNS1) we received a TCAS TA; then an RA commanding us to climb at 1000 FPM. I immediately complied with the RA. The command continued at 1000 FPM until reaching FL300. We advised ATC. We received no TA from ZTL. I think the B737 below us was responding to his own RA and climbed to our altitude. The B737 climbed up to our assigned altitude; possibly through it; and passed directly below us as seen by first officer and as shown on our mfd. I firmly believe; both immediately after the event; and now after reflection; that the TCAS unit in our aircraft saved the lives of many people. Not sure exactly why this event occurred. However; as stated above the B737 was responding to his own RA and that is what caused ours. There could be numerous reasons for his RA; such as another aircraft altitude deviation or a lack of separation error by ATC. Unsure how to avoid this event in the future. One thing I know for sure is that TCAS saved us from disaster. I would recommend a policy to never fly without TCAS being operative. It is currently allowed to be MEL'ed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL600 FLT CREW RESPONDED TO TCAS RESOLUTION ADVISORY DURING CRUISE. FLT CREW BELIEVES THE INTRUDING ACFT WAS ALSO RESPONDING TO AN RA.
Narrative: WHILE LEVEL AT FL290 APCHING FLABB INTXN ON ARR TO CLT (JOHNS1) WE RECEIVED A TCAS TA; THEN AN RA COMMANDING US TO CLB AT 1000 FPM. I IMMEDIATELY COMPLIED WITH THE RA. THE COMMAND CONTINUED AT 1000 FPM UNTIL REACHING FL300. WE ADVISED ATC. WE RECEIVED NO TA FROM ZTL. I THINK THE B737 BELOW US WAS RESPONDING TO HIS OWN RA AND CLBED TO OUR ALT. THE B737 CLBED UP TO OUR ASSIGNED ALT; POSSIBLY THROUGH IT; AND PASSED DIRECTLY BELOW US AS SEEN BY FO AND AS SHOWN ON OUR MFD. I FIRMLY BELIEVE; BOTH IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE EVENT; AND NOW AFTER REFLECTION; THAT THE TCAS UNIT IN OUR ACFT SAVED THE LIVES OF MANY PEOPLE. NOT SURE EXACTLY WHY THIS EVENT OCCURRED. HOWEVER; AS STATED ABOVE THE B737 WAS RESPONDING TO HIS OWN RA AND THAT IS WHAT CAUSED OURS. THERE COULD BE NUMEROUS REASONS FOR HIS RA; SUCH AS ANOTHER ACFT ALTDEV OR A LACK OF SEPARATION ERROR BY ATC. UNSURE HOW TO AVOID THIS EVENT IN THE FUTURE. ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT TCAS SAVED US FROM DISASTER. I WOULD RECOMMEND A POLICY TO NEVER FLY WITHOUT TCAS BEING OPERATIVE. IT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO BE MEL'ED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.