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Attributes | |
ACN | 757962 |
Time | |
Date | 200710 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : n/a |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5400 flight time type : 3560 |
ASRS Report | 757962 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 246 flight time total : 4900 flight time type : 950 |
ASRS Report | 757961 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : landed as precaution other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Climbing out of lga; noticed aircraft pressurization problems. (Excessive pain in ears; looked over and saw the cabin pressure was climbing rapidly and excessively. Then cabin ceased to climb anymore). Coordinated with ATC to level at a safe altitude of 10000 ft and vectored in terminal area to problem solve. I contacted dispatch and maintenance control to work through the abnormal pressurization problem since there were no messages or specific QRH procedures for the condition. I contacted maintenance control so they could help problem solve with us and direct a course of action. All they asked was: do you have any messages or door open indications? None were indicated. I asked for their recommendations/thoughts and they directed me to perform the QRH. I told them given the circumstances there wasn't a clear QRH procedure to perform. The closest procedure was 'unpressurized flight with packs on.' they directed me to perform the unpressurized flight with packs on QRH procedure. I asked them several times to make sure that is absolutely what they wanted us to do. They said 'perform the QRH.' I did as directed by maintenance control specialists. I contacted maintenance control to problem solve and feel they led us down an incorrect path by insisting I perform the QRH procedure without ever trying to problem solve or diagnose the problem. This ultimately resulted in the cabin climbing excessively and having to initiate a descent and return to lga. No assistance was required. It was a safe; normal and uneventful landing at lga. Maintenance was performed and we later flew the aircraft with revenue as planned.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ200 FAILED TO PRESSURIZE AFTER TKOF. FLT CREW RETURNED TO DEP ARPT.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF LGA; NOTICED ACFT PRESSURIZATION PROBS. (EXCESSIVE PAIN IN EARS; LOOKED OVER AND SAW THE CABIN PRESSURE WAS CLBING RAPIDLY AND EXCESSIVELY. THEN CABIN CEASED TO CLB ANYMORE). COORDINATED WITH ATC TO LEVEL AT A SAFE ALT OF 10000 FT AND VECTORED IN TERMINAL AREA TO PROB SOLVE. I CONTACTED DISPATCH AND MAINT CTL TO WORK THROUGH THE ABNORMAL PRESSURIZATION PROB SINCE THERE WERE NO MESSAGES OR SPECIFIC QRH PROCS FOR THE CONDITION. I CONTACTED MAINT CTL SO THEY COULD HELP PROB SOLVE WITH US AND DIRECT A COURSE OF ACTION. ALL THEY ASKED WAS: DO YOU HAVE ANY MESSAGES OR DOOR OPEN INDICATIONS? NONE WERE INDICATED. I ASKED FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS/THOUGHTS AND THEY DIRECTED ME TO PERFORM THE QRH. I TOLD THEM GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THERE WASN'T A CLR QRH PROC TO PERFORM. THE CLOSEST PROC WAS 'UNPRESSURIZED FLT WITH PACKS ON.' THEY DIRECTED ME TO PERFORM THE UNPRESSURIZED FLT WITH PACKS ON QRH PROC. I ASKED THEM SEVERAL TIMES TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO. THEY SAID 'PERFORM THE QRH.' I DID AS DIRECTED BY MAINT CTL SPECIALISTS. I CONTACTED MAINT CTL TO PROB SOLVE AND FEEL THEY LED US DOWN AN INCORRECT PATH BY INSISTING I PERFORM THE QRH PROC WITHOUT EVER TRYING TO PROB SOLVE OR DIAGNOSE THE PROB. THIS ULTIMATELY RESULTED IN THE CABIN CLBING EXCESSIVELY AND HAVING TO INITIATE A DSCNT AND RETURN TO LGA. NO ASSISTANCE WAS REQUIRED. IT WAS A SAFE; NORMAL AND UNEVENTFUL LNDG AT LGA. MAINT WAS PERFORMED AND WE LATER FLEW THE ACFT WITH REVENUE AS PLANNED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.