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Attributes | |
ACN | 761028 |
Time | |
Date | 200711 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 700 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 761028 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 166 flight time total : 3650 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 761029 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
The first officer performed a normal landing on runway 12 at mia. Slowing for exit off the runway; about 80 KTS; tower told us to continue our rollout; and I thought I heard him say 'to the end.' the first officer told me later that he heard instructions to exit at taxiway south. Approaching 70 KTS; I rogered the instructions and repeated; 'roll to the end.' at the same time I called 70 KTS and received control of the aircraft. Tower was handling at least 2 runways with almost non-stop xmissions. Passing txwys south and T; I saw an aircraft exiting our ramp and was thinking that was why we were rolling so far down the runway. 2 seconds later the tower asked me in an excited manner if we could hold short on runway 12. We were approaching the lahso markings for runway 9. Reacting to the controller's tone of voice; I braked hard and stopped at the lahso markings. We did not have time to respond on the radio prior to stopping. The controller then told us to accelerate through runway 9. From a full stop it took at least 15 seconds for the engines to spool back up and for us to begin moving. The first officer was looking out his side window and saw an aircraft about 500 ft on final to runway 9. He said that I should hurry and we crossed prior to the other aircraft touching down. This event was exciting; but could have been a lot worse. Towers frequently give instructions to aircraft as they are slowing and getting ready to exit. Frequently the 2 actions cause interference and sometimes confusion. Since the airport was not utilizing lahso they provided adequate separation. If we had been allowed to continue slowing and exit prior to taxiway south this would have been avoided. The differences between what we heard demonstrates that this is a bad time to talk to us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CAPT DESCRIBED CONFUSING ATC CLRNC DURING LNDG ROLL REF TURN OFF POINT; CITING TIMING OF CTLR'S CLRNC AS CONTRIBUTORY.
Narrative: THE FO PERFORMED A NORMAL LNDG ON RWY 12 AT MIA. SLOWING FOR EXIT OFF THE RWY; ABOUT 80 KTS; TWR TOLD US TO CONTINUE OUR ROLLOUT; AND I THOUGHT I HEARD HIM SAY 'TO THE END.' THE FO TOLD ME LATER THAT HE HEARD INSTRUCTIONS TO EXIT AT TXWY S. APCHING 70 KTS; I ROGERED THE INSTRUCTIONS AND REPEATED; 'ROLL TO THE END.' AT THE SAME TIME I CALLED 70 KTS AND RECEIVED CTL OF THE ACFT. TWR WAS HANDLING AT LEAST 2 RWYS WITH ALMOST NON-STOP XMISSIONS. PASSING TXWYS S AND T; I SAW AN ACFT EXITING OUR RAMP AND WAS THINKING THAT WAS WHY WE WERE ROLLING SO FAR DOWN THE RWY. 2 SECONDS LATER THE TWR ASKED ME IN AN EXCITED MANNER IF WE COULD HOLD SHORT ON RWY 12. WE WERE APCHING THE LAHSO MARKINGS FOR RWY 9. REACTING TO THE CTLR'S TONE OF VOICE; I BRAKED HARD AND STOPPED AT THE LAHSO MARKINGS. WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO RESPOND ON THE RADIO PRIOR TO STOPPING. THE CTLR THEN TOLD US TO ACCELERATE THROUGH RWY 9. FROM A FULL STOP IT TOOK AT LEAST 15 SECONDS FOR THE ENGS TO SPOOL BACK UP AND FOR US TO BEGIN MOVING. THE FO WAS LOOKING OUT HIS SIDE WINDOW AND SAW AN ACFT ABOUT 500 FT ON FINAL TO RWY 9. HE SAID THAT I SHOULD HURRY AND WE CROSSED PRIOR TO THE OTHER ACFT TOUCHING DOWN. THIS EVENT WAS EXCITING; BUT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE. TWRS FREQUENTLY GIVE INSTRUCTIONS TO ACFT AS THEY ARE SLOWING AND GETTING READY TO EXIT. FREQUENTLY THE 2 ACTIONS CAUSE INTERFERENCE AND SOMETIMES CONFUSION. SINCE THE ARPT WAS NOT UTILIZING LAHSO THEY PROVIDED ADEQUATE SEPARATION. IF WE HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO CONTINUE SLOWING AND EXIT PRIOR TO TXWY S THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. THE DIFFERENCES BTWN WHAT WE HEARD DEMONSTRATES THAT THIS IS A BAD TIME TO TALK TO US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.