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Attributes | |
ACN | 761618 |
Time | |
Date | 200711 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sbgl.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 761618 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Pre-departure clearance was given to our flight approximately 20 to 30 mins prior to departure. The 'clearance limit fix' out of sbgl was given as 'ekuba.' this fix is not in the FMC database; not on the charts we carry; and yet it is being used as a specific clearance limit point for our flts. The local agent gave us a photocopy of a chart that had the fix 'ekuba' penned in to the approximately location. This is absurd; why are they not using a fix in our FMC database? They wonder why they have so many problems in brazilian ATC controlled airspace....
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PLT RPTS BEING GIVEN A CLRNC LIMIT OF EKUBA ON A FLT OUT OF SBGL. EKUBA IS NOT IN THE FMC OR ON THE COMMERCIAL CHARTS CARRIED BY THE FLT CREW. THEY WERE GIVEN A PHOTOCOPY OF A CHART WITH THE LOCATION OF EKUBA PENNED IN AT AN APPROX LOCATION.
Narrative: PRE-DEP CLRNC WAS GIVEN TO OUR FLT APPROX 20 TO 30 MINS PRIOR TO DEP. THE 'CLRNC LIMIT FIX' OUT OF SBGL WAS GIVEN AS 'EKUBA.' THIS FIX IS NOT IN THE FMC DATABASE; NOT ON THE CHARTS WE CARRY; AND YET IT IS BEING USED AS A SPECIFIC CLRNC LIMIT POINT FOR OUR FLTS. THE LOCAL AGENT GAVE US A PHOTOCOPY OF A CHART THAT HAD THE FIX 'EKUBA' PENNED IN TO THE APPROX LOCATION. THIS IS ABSURD; WHY ARE THEY NOT USING A FIX IN OUR FMC DATABASE? THEY WONDER WHY THEY HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS IN BRAZILIAN ATC CONTROLLED AIRSPACE....
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.