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Attributes | |
ACN | 762385 |
Time | |
Date | 200711 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bxk.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1 flight time total : 301 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 762385 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We reported 10 mi northwest of bxk with intentions to enter at 45 degrees for a left downwind to runway 35. Immediately after other C172 reported 10 mi east of bxk requesting airport advisories. An unknown aircraft reported that runway 35 was in use; left traffic and 4 aircraft in the pattern. A few mins later we reported 5 mi northwest of bxk with intentions to enter at 45 degrees for a left downwind to runway 35. Immediately after other C172 reported 5 mi east of bxk for left traffic runway 35. A few mins later we reported 3 mi northwest of bxk entering on a left downwind runway 35. Immediately after other C172 reported 3 mi east of bxk for a left downwind for runway 35. We called to confirm that they were 3 mi east (not west) with a confirmation that they were 3 mi east of the airport. After entering the downwind for runway 35 we were still searching for the aircraft. We spotted the aircraft at our 2 O'clock position; same altitude; approximately 300 ft horizontally in a hard left bank to avoid us. It appears that the other C172 was west of the airport; not east; and they were on a 45 degree entry for right traffic runway 17 instead of the reported left traffic for runway 35. From the first call from other C172 we had a very hard time communicating with them and understanding their xmissions due to the lack of ability to speak the english language.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TWO C172'S EXPERIENCE NMAC IN UNCONTROLLED TRAFFIC PATTERN. LANGUAGE BARRIER WAS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.
Narrative: WE RPTED 10 MI NW OF BXK WITH INTENTIONS TO ENTER AT 45 DEGS FOR A L DOWNWIND TO RWY 35. IMMEDIATELY AFTER OTHER C172 RPTED 10 MI E OF BXK REQUESTING ARPT ADVISORIES. AN UNKNOWN ACFT RPTED THAT RWY 35 WAS IN USE; L TFC AND 4 ACFT IN THE PATTERN. A FEW MINS LATER WE RPTED 5 MI NW OF BXK WITH INTENTIONS TO ENTER AT 45 DEGS FOR A L DOWNWIND TO RWY 35. IMMEDIATELY AFTER OTHER C172 RPTED 5 MI E OF BXK FOR L TFC RWY 35. A FEW MINS LATER WE RPTED 3 MI NW OF BXK ENTERING ON A L DOWNWIND RWY 35. IMMEDIATELY AFTER OTHER C172 RPTED 3 MI E OF BXK FOR A L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 35. WE CALLED TO CONFIRM THAT THEY WERE 3 MI E (NOT W) WITH A CONFIRMATION THAT THEY WERE 3 MI E OF THE ARPT. AFTER ENTERING THE DOWNWIND FOR RWY 35 WE WERE STILL SEARCHING FOR THE ACFT. WE SPOTTED THE ACFT AT OUR 2 O'CLOCK POS; SAME ALT; APPROX 300 FT HORIZONTALLY IN A HARD L BANK TO AVOID US. IT APPEARS THAT THE OTHER C172 WAS W OF THE ARPT; NOT E; AND THEY WERE ON A 45 DEG ENTRY FOR R TFC RWY 17 INSTEAD OF THE RPTED L TFC FOR RWY 35. FROM THE FIRST CALL FROM OTHER C172 WE HAD A VERY HARD TIME COMMUNICATING WITH THEM AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR XMISSIONS DUE TO THE LACK OF ABILITY TO SPEAK THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.