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Attributes | |
ACN | 769772 |
Time | |
Date | 200801 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl single value : 15000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Boeing Company Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : eldee |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 769772 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared to cross revue at 15000 ft on the ELDEE2 to dca. We selected the altitudes correctly and the captain selected prof. The aircraft began the descent as expected but as we neared that fix we noticed that the aircraft was high. We reached the 15000 ft clearance altitude within about 2 mi after revue. ATC did ask us if we were on the ELDEE2. I responded that we were but we would probably not make revue at 15000 ft due to an issue with the FMS. Nothing more was said about it from ATC. Near the time that we discovered that the aircraft would be high; we had picked up the latest ATIS that indicated that we would be landing runway 19 rather than runway 1. At this time I initiated a runway change in the FMS. The FMS also doubled up much of the arrival after I did this. I suspect that this is why the aircraft had trouble with the profile. I also suspect; but can't confirm that the reason the arrival was doubled up was probably because I may have selected a point too far along the arrival to do the lateral revision. The ELDEE2 splits at eldee and I suspect that I did the revision off of sabbi inadvertently.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR PILOT REPORTS EXPECTING A DCA RWY 1 APCH BUT BEING ASSIGNED RWY 19. ACFT WAS HIGH AT THE ELDEE 2 REVUE'S INTXN MISSING THE CONSTRAINT BY 2 MILES.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS REVUE AT 15000 FT ON THE ELDEE2 TO DCA. WE SELECTED THE ALTS CORRECTLY AND THE CAPT SELECTED PROF. THE ACFT BEGAN THE DSCNT AS EXPECTED BUT AS WE NEARED THAT FIX WE NOTICED THAT THE ACFT WAS HIGH. WE REACHED THE 15000 FT CLRNC ALT WITHIN ABOUT 2 MI AFTER REVUE. ATC DID ASK US IF WE WERE ON THE ELDEE2. I RESPONDED THAT WE WERE BUT WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT MAKE REVUE AT 15000 FT DUE TO AN ISSUE WITH THE FMS. NOTHING MORE WAS SAID ABOUT IT FROM ATC. NEAR THE TIME THAT WE DISCOVERED THAT THE ACFT WOULD BE HIGH; WE HAD PICKED UP THE LATEST ATIS THAT INDICATED THAT WE WOULD BE LNDG RWY 19 RATHER THAN RWY 1. AT THIS TIME I INITIATED A RWY CHANGE IN THE FMS. THE FMS ALSO DOUBLED UP MUCH OF THE ARR AFTER I DID THIS. I SUSPECT THAT THIS IS WHY THE ACFT HAD TROUBLE WITH THE PROFILE. I ALSO SUSPECT; BUT CAN'T CONFIRM THAT THE REASON THE ARR WAS DOUBLED UP WAS PROBABLY BECAUSE I MAY HAVE SELECTED A POINT TOO FAR ALONG THE ARR TO DO THE LATERAL REVISION. THE ELDEE2 SPLITS AT ELDEE AND I SUSPECT THAT I DID THE REVISION OFF OF SABBI INADVERTENTLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.