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Attributes | |
ACN | 771204 |
Time | |
Date | 200801 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sbgr.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 7000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : tuca |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 771204 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were on descent on the tuca 9 arrival into sbgr. We were given clearance to fly the arrival; but not 'via' the arrival; so we did not have to comply with altitude and speed restrs. Somewhere near lane intersection we were given clearance 'via' the arrival. We crossed lane intersection on altitude but above the speed. We were having trouble hearing the clearance and had to ask several times if what we were cleared for. For some reason I was not planning on crossing lane at FL190. Very close to the intersection the first officer said we need to cross lane at FL190. We passed the intersection above the FL190 restr; but slowed quickly with no negative results. I stated the event as deviation from clearance; but it is also a lack of communication problems. We were having trouble understanding sbgr approach. Also; it appeared the first officer was aware of the speed restr; but did not mention it until too late. We are very tired at this point as this flight leaves very late local time. It is now 8 hours later. My briefing at the gate stated that we should know we are not at the top of our games due to the hour of operation; and that we need to check each other; to ensure a safe flight. In this type of operation we need to double check ourselves and the entire crew to make sure we comply with all requirements.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A WDB FLT CREW DEVIATED FROM CHARTED SPEED ON ARR INTO SBGR.
Narrative: WE WERE ON DSCNT ON THE TUCA 9 ARR INTO SBGR. WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC TO FLY THE ARR; BUT NOT 'VIA' THE ARR; SO WE DID NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALTITUDE AND SPEED RESTRS. SOMEWHERE NEAR LANE INTXN WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC 'VIA' THE ARR. WE CROSSED LANE INTXN ON ALTITUDE BUT ABOVE THE SPEED. WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING THE CLRNC AND HAD TO ASK SEVERAL TIMES IF WHAT WE WERE CLRED FOR. FOR SOME REASON I WAS NOT PLANNING ON CROSSING LANE AT FL190. VERY CLOSE TO THE INTXN THE FO SAID WE NEED TO CROSS LANE AT FL190. WE PASSED THE INTXN ABOVE THE FL190 RESTR; BUT SLOWED QUICKLY WITH NO NEGATIVE RESULTS. I STATED THE EVENT AS DEVIATION FROM CLRNC; BUT IT IS ALSO A LACK OF COM PROBLEMS. WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING SBGR APCH. ALSO; IT APPEARED THE FO WAS AWARE OF THE SPD RESTR; BUT DID NOT MENTION IT UNTIL TOO LATE. WE ARE VERY TIRED AT THIS POINT AS THIS FLT LEAVES VERY LATE LCL TIME. IT IS NOW 8 HOURS LATER. MY BRIEFING AT THE GATE STATED THAT WE SHOULD KNOW WE ARE NOT AT THE TOP OF OUR GAMES DUE TO THE HOUR OF OP; AND THAT WE NEED TO CHK EACH OTHER; TO ENSURE A SAFE FLT. IN THIS TYPE OF OP WE NEED TO DOUBLE CHK OURSELVES AND THE ENTIRE CREW TO MAKE SURE WE COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.