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Attributes | |
ACN | 779571 |
Time | |
Date | 200803 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tjsj.airport |
State Reference | PR |
Altitude | msl single value : 1600 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tjsj.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 8 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 779571 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 779572 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : eicas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Level at 1600 ft; we were given a heading to intercept the runway 8 localizer and cleared for the ILS to runway 8. First officer was flying and used heading select to go from LNAV to heading control. He also selected localizer. We both noticed the heading select did not respond right away and then was very slow to turn to assigned heading. As we are turning to intercept the localizer; the first officer armed 'app' and a few seconds later the autoplt disengaged uncommanded and I noticed an amber line through my GS indication on my ADI. The next thing I notice is that we are now at 1200 ft. First officer corrected back and went on to an uneventful landing. Points: 1) this is the second time something very similar has happened to me at the same time on the same approach. 2) the GS was full scale up when this happened. It very much seemed like we intercepted a false GS. The first officer said he saw a fly down command on the flight director. 3) I have altered my procedure for arming the localizer/approach procedure based on my last experience here; but the first officer had already armed 'app' before I saw it and things were happening very fast. 4) something is not right just outside the marker on the ILS runway 8 approach at tjsj.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT CREW REPORTS ANOMALOUS AUTO PILOT OPERATION DURING ILS APPROACH TO RWY 8 AT TJSJ.
Narrative: LEVEL AT 1600 FT; WE WERE GIVEN A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE RWY 8 LOC AND CLRED FOR THE ILS TO RWY 8. FO WAS FLYING AND USED HDG SELECT TO GO FROM LNAV TO HDG CTL. HE ALSO SELECTED LOC. WE BOTH NOTICED THE HDG SELECT DID NOT RESPOND RIGHT AWAY AND THEN WAS VERY SLOW TO TURN TO ASSIGNED HDG. AS WE ARE TURNING TO INTERCEPT THE LOC; THE FO ARMED 'APP' AND A FEW SECONDS LATER THE AUTOPLT DISENGAGED UNCOMMANDED AND I NOTICED AN AMBER LINE THROUGH MY GS INDICATION ON MY ADI. THE NEXT THING I NOTICE IS THAT WE ARE NOW AT 1200 FT. FO CORRECTED BACK AND WENT ON TO AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG. POINTS: 1) THIS IS THE SECOND TIME SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR HAS HAPPENED TO ME AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME APCH. 2) THE GS WAS FULL SCALE UP WHEN THIS HAPPENED. IT VERY MUCH SEEMED LIKE WE INTERCEPTED A FALSE GS. THE FO SAID HE SAW A FLY DOWN COMMAND ON THE FLT DIRECTOR. 3) I HAVE ALTERED MY PROC FOR ARMING THE LOC/APCH PROC BASED ON MY LAST EXPERIENCE HERE; BUT THE FO HAD ALREADY ARMED 'APP' BEFORE I SAW IT AND THINGS WERE HAPPENING VERY FAST. 4) SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT JUST OUTSIDE THE MARKER ON THE ILS RWY 8 APCH AT TJSJ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.