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Attributes | |
ACN | 779802 |
Time | |
Date | 200803 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 163 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 779802 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 238 flight time type : 863 |
ASRS Report | 779804 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
Airport | design : cle.airport markings : cle.airport |
Narrative:
We landed on runway 6L exiting at taxiway right. We were instructed to hold short of runway 6R. Runway 6C was closed. Initially we paused before crossing runway 6C to make sure we had idented it correctly. Then we proceeded to cross runway 6C. As we approached runway 6R we were unsure of the runway markings and may have crossed the line onto runway 6R. When we became unsure of our position; we stopped. Within a second or two we were cleared across runway 6R and we proceeded. Even now we are not sure if we entered the runway prematurely but we submit this to again highlight the critical runway layout in cle and to encourage constant vigilance on the part of all air crews when operating in cle. Of course; there is no substitute for constant crew vigilance and situational awareness. We can never emphasize this too much. In addition; I had the following thought -- have they ever considered using the center runway in cle as the standard hold short point for the inboard runway? There is such nonstandard spacing between these 2 runways that now with an additional outboard runway the center and inboard could be considered 'one' runway for crossing purposes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-700 FLT CREW WAS CONFUSED WITH REGARD TO LOCATION OF HOLD-SHORT LINES BETWEEN RWYS 6C AND 6R AT CLE.
Narrative: WE LANDED ON RWY 6L EXITING AT TXWY R. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 6R. RWY 6C WAS CLOSED. INITIALLY WE PAUSED BEFORE XING RWY 6C TO MAKE SURE WE HAD IDENTED IT CORRECTLY. THEN WE PROCEEDED TO CROSS RWY 6C. AS WE APCHED RWY 6R WE WERE UNSURE OF THE RWY MARKINGS AND MAY HAVE CROSSED THE LINE ONTO RWY 6R. WHEN WE BECAME UNSURE OF OUR POS; WE STOPPED. WITHIN A SECOND OR TWO WE WERE CLRED ACROSS RWY 6R AND WE PROCEEDED. EVEN NOW WE ARE NOT SURE IF WE ENTERED THE RWY PREMATURELY BUT WE SUBMIT THIS TO AGAIN HIGHLIGHT THE CRITICAL RWY LAYOUT IN CLE AND TO ENCOURAGE CONSTANT VIGILANCE ON THE PART OF ALL AIR CREWS WHEN OPERATING IN CLE. OF COURSE; THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CONSTANT CREW VIGILANCE AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. WE CAN NEVER EMPHASIZE THIS TOO MUCH. IN ADDITION; I HAD THE FOLLOWING THOUGHT -- HAVE THEY EVER CONSIDERED USING THE CENTER RWY IN CLE AS THE STANDARD HOLD SHORT POINT FOR THE INBOARD RWY? THERE IS SUCH NONSTANDARD SPACING BTWN THESE 2 RWYS THAT NOW WITH AN ADDITIONAL OUTBOARD RWY THE CENTER AND INBOARD COULD BE CONSIDERED 'ONE' RWY FOR XING PURPOSES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.