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Attributes | |
ACN | 784120 |
Time | |
Date | 200804 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 784120 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Factors | |
Maintenance | contributing factor : manuals |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
First officer discovered gouge in #3 tire and confirmed that it was leaking. Contract maintenance was called; inspected issue; and said the tire was ok. I went to look; then tested the hole with soapy water; confirmed it was leaking and talked to maintenance control. They agreed the tire would be changed but then called back and told me that according to their manual -- that aircraft could be flown 3 cycles as long as you cannot hear the leak. I refused the aircraft over the concern that the leak will increase after it cools down at altitude on our flight and then we are landing at a high altitude airport with high groundspeed risking the tire coming apart or blowing the remaining good tire on the right side main.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated the maintenance controller was upset that he (the pilot) would not take the aircraft with a main gear tire having an active air leak. Although maintenance control said the MM allowed for continued tire operation with a known air leak; as long as you could not 'hear' the air leak; no one has actually referenced any particular language to support that maintenance position. Reporter stated this is a safety of flight issue. Landing or taking off with a known leaking and possibly under inflated tire should not be allowed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIRBUS A319 PILOT REPORTS ABOUT CONFIRMING A #3 MAIN LNDG GEAR TIRE WAS LEAKING BY USING SOAPY WATER. CARRIER MAINT CONTROL SAYS ACFT OK TO FLY FOR 3 CYCLES AS LONG AS YOU CANNOT 'HEAR' THE LEAK.
Narrative: FO DISCOVERED GOUGE IN #3 TIRE AND CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS LEAKING. CONTRACT MAINT WAS CALLED; INSPECTED ISSUE; AND SAID THE TIRE WAS OK. I WENT TO LOOK; THEN TESTED THE HOLE WITH SOAPY WATER; CONFIRMED IT WAS LEAKING AND TALKED TO MAINT CONTROL. THEY AGREED THE TIRE WOULD BE CHANGED BUT THEN CALLED BACK AND TOLD ME THAT ACCORDING TO THEIR MANUAL -- THAT AIRCRAFT COULD BE FLOWN 3 CYCLES AS LONG AS YOU CANNOT HEAR THE LEAK. I REFUSED THE AIRCRAFT OVER THE CONCERN THAT THE LEAK WILL INCREASE AFTER IT COOLS DOWN AT ALTITUDE ON OUR FLIGHT AND THEN WE ARE LANDING AT A HIGH ALTITUDE AIRPORT WITH HIGH GROUNDSPEED RISKING THE TIRE COMING APART OR BLOWING THE REMAINING GOOD TIRE ON THE RIGHT SIDE MAIN.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: REPORTER STATED THE MAINT CONTROLLER WAS UPSET THAT HE (THE PILOT) WOULD NOT TAKE THE ACFT WITH A MAIN GEAR TIRE HAVING AN ACTIVE AIR LEAK. ALTHOUGH MAINT CONTROL SAID THE MM ALLOWED FOR CONTINUED TIRE OPERATION WITH A KNOWN AIR LEAK; AS LONG AS YOU COULD NOT 'HEAR' THE AIR LEAK; NO ONE HAS ACTUALLY REFERENCED ANY PARTICULAR LANGUAGE TO SUPPORT THAT MAINT POSITION. REPORTER STATED THIS IS A SAFETY OF FLIGHT ISSUE. LANDING OR TAKING OFF WITH A KNOWN LEAKING AND POSSIBLY UNDER INFLATED TIRE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.