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Attributes | |
ACN | 784733 |
Time | |
Date | 200804 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ehrd.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 784733 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | other personnel |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other other : 2 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
At departure time we called to have ground personnel pull chocks. We were parked in a spot we could taxi straight away from. Operations advised ground personnel on headset at nose gear. We checked in and requested chock removal and engine start. After engine start; we saw ground personnel move off to right front. We called for taxi. After moving about 3 ft; the ground guide off to the right gave us the stop signal -- there were 2 ground personnel and the nose gear/headset person was still plugged in. After unplugging headset; we taxied away -- thankfully no problem. We also called handler upon destination arrival. This was a very upsetting event for me. Why did this happen? 1)when pushback not required; we are used to hand signals. 2) having a ground person on headset without checking in was a little unusual. 3) getting permission to start engines and subsequently seeing ground personnel move away from aircraft to right was deceiving. 4) this was an outstation with contract personnel. Nevertheless; I will never move aircraft until headset person acknowledges unplugging.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 STARTS TAXI WITH GND CREW STILL PLUGGED INTO INTERPHONE SYSTEM.
Narrative: AT DEP TIME WE CALLED TO HAVE GND PERSONNEL PULL CHOCKS. WE WERE PARKED IN A SPOT WE COULD TAXI STRAIGHT AWAY FROM. OPS ADVISED GND PERSONNEL ON HEADSET AT NOSE GEAR. WE CHKED IN AND REQUESTED CHOCK REMOVAL AND ENG START. AFTER ENG START; WE SAW GND PERSONNEL MOVE OFF TO R FRONT. WE CALLED FOR TAXI. AFTER MOVING ABOUT 3 FT; THE GND GUIDE OFF TO THE R GAVE US THE STOP SIGNAL -- THERE WERE 2 GND PERSONNEL AND THE NOSE GEAR/HEADSET PERSON WAS STILL PLUGGED IN. AFTER UNPLUGGING HEADSET; WE TAXIED AWAY -- THANKFULLY NO PROB. WE ALSO CALLED HANDLER UPON DEST ARR. THIS WAS A VERY UPSETTING EVENT FOR ME. WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? 1)WHEN PUSHBACK NOT REQUIRED; WE ARE USED TO HAND SIGNALS. 2) HAVING A GND PERSON ON HEADSET WITHOUT CHKING IN WAS A LITTLE UNUSUAL. 3) GETTING PERMISSION TO START ENGS AND SUBSEQUENTLY SEEING GND PERSONNEL MOVE AWAY FROM ACFT TO R WAS DECEIVING. 4) THIS WAS AN OUTSTATION WITH CONTRACT PERSONNEL. NEVERTHELESS; I WILL NEVER MOVE ACFT UNTIL HEADSET PERSON ACKNOWLEDGES UNPLUGGING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.