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Attributes | |
ACN | 788618 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzzz.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 788618 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : hi stage bleed lights other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Company |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Probably immediately after (bleeds off; APU running) takeoff; both high stage bleed lights illuminated. After normal (rapid) clean-up (maximum power; bleeds off power); QRH procedure followed. Emergency declared and returned for an overweight landing in ZZZZ. ZZZZ controllers were very professional and helpful. Captain enlisted the help of our jumpseater to contact company. Captain alerted flight attendants and passenger. Approach and landing uneventful. Captain was very thorough and CRM was excellent. After consulting the handbook; we found a paragraph that spoke to this situation (un-bled engines on maximum power takeoffs could lead to this happening) we wondered how this could be normal and why we had not seen it before. The passenger were frustrated (obviously) after 2 hours on the aircraft with no fix in sight. They were let off the airplane for food vouchers and some rebooking. The crew members could not eat because the vendors in the airport would not accept united states dollars and agents would not give us vouchers. This is my second emergency in 8 months. Multiple MEL's are a daily event. Small things are deferred (mechanical checklists) as well as big things (automatic speed brakes). This; in and of itself; is becoming a great distraction to the crews; pilots and flight attendants alike. Even if it's just the perception that things aren't working so well; the perception becomes as relevant as the reality if the distrs increase to the point of compromising procedures and safety (which did not happen in this event).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT CREW REPORTS BOTH HI STAGE BLEED LIGHTS ILLUMINATED DURING BLEEDS OFF TKOF. EMERGENCY DECLARED AND FLIGHT RETURNS TO FIELD.
Narrative: PROBABLY IMMEDIATELY AFTER (BLEEDS OFF; APU RUNNING) TKOF; BOTH HIGH STAGE BLEED LIGHTS ILLUMINATED. AFTER NORMAL (RAPID) CLEAN-UP (MAX PWR; BLEEDS OFF PWR); QRH PROC FOLLOWED. EMER DECLARED AND RETURNED FOR AN OVERWT LNDG IN ZZZZ. ZZZZ CTLRS WERE VERY PROFESSIONAL AND HELPFUL. CAPT ENLISTED THE HELP OF OUR JUMPSEATER TO CONTACT COMPANY. CAPT ALERTED FLT ATTENDANTS AND PAX. APCH AND LNDG UNEVENTFUL. CAPT WAS VERY THOROUGH AND CRM WAS EXCELLENT. AFTER CONSULTING THE HANDBOOK; WE FOUND A PARAGRAPH THAT SPOKE TO THIS SITUATION (UN-BLED ENGS ON MAX PWR TKOFS COULD LEAD TO THIS HAPPENING) WE WONDERED HOW THIS COULD BE NORMAL AND WHY WE HAD NOT SEEN IT BEFORE. THE PAX WERE FRUSTRATED (OBVIOUSLY) AFTER 2 HRS ON THE ACFT WITH NO FIX IN SIGHT. THEY WERE LET OFF THE AIRPLANE FOR FOOD VOUCHERS AND SOME REBOOKING. THE CREW MEMBERS COULD NOT EAT BECAUSE THE VENDORS IN THE ARPT WOULD NOT ACCEPT UNITED STATES DOLLARS AND AGENTS WOULD NOT GIVE US VOUCHERS. THIS IS MY SECOND EMER IN 8 MONTHS. MULTIPLE MEL'S ARE A DAILY EVENT. SMALL THINGS ARE DEFERRED (MECHANICAL CHKLISTS) AS WELL AS BIG THINGS (AUTO SPD BRAKES). THIS; IN AND OF ITSELF; IS BECOMING A GREAT DISTR TO THE CREWS; PLTS AND FLT ATTENDANTS ALIKE. EVEN IF IT'S JUST THE PERCEPTION THAT THINGS AREN'T WORKING SO WELL; THE PERCEPTION BECOMES AS RELEVANT AS THE REALITY IF THE DISTRS INCREASE TO THE POINT OF COMPROMISING PROCS AND SAFETY (WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN IN THIS EVENT).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.