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Attributes | |
ACN | 790465 |
Time | |
Date | 200806 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 14800 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 790465 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
All normal pre-departure duties had been completed and the first officer was the PF. On takeoff roll I called V1; rotate; V2. As the first officer began rotation I sensed that the aircraft was not yet ready to fly as evidenced by an increase in pitch yet no lift-off. As we approached 9-10 degrees of pitch and could tell that he was still trying to pull the aircraft off the ground I placed my hands on the control wheel and said hold take it easy. About a 1-2 second delay holding 9 degrees of pitch the aircraft did lift off. This was approximately 15 KTS above our V1 speed. I held it there until we had accelerated another 15-20 KTS then stated to continue the climb. It was then that I rechk the speed card. To my surprise and I had not caught it before due to the speed brake handle blocking the first digit of the weight that we had the wrong card selected. We had set the speeds for a takeoff weight of 270000 pounds instead of 370000 pounds. I stated to him to add 20 KTS to all retract speeds. Cleanup was completed without any other problems. Upon further discussion the first officer stated he opened the speed card after we had gotten the weight and balance but made an error. I looked at the card when we set the speeds but the speed brake handle had blocked my view of the 2 in 270000. In the future I think that verifying the speed holding the card in your hand instead of placing it over the FMC would have eliminated the mistake. Fortunately there was no aircraft damage. We discussed different techniques to use for ensuring that this type of event never occurs again.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 CAPT REPORTS TKOF WITH DATA FOR 270K GW WHILE ACFT ACTUALLY WEIGHS 370K.
Narrative: ALL NORMAL PRE-DEP DUTIES HAD BEEN COMPLETED AND THE FO WAS THE PF. ON TKOF ROLL I CALLED V1; ROTATE; V2. AS THE FO BEGAN ROTATION I SENSED THAT THE ACFT WAS NOT YET READY TO FLY AS EVIDENCED BY AN INCREASE IN PITCH YET NO LIFT-OFF. AS WE APCHED 9-10 DEGS OF PITCH AND COULD TELL THAT HE WAS STILL TRYING TO PULL THE ACFT OFF THE GND I PLACED MY HANDS ON THE CTL WHEEL AND SAID HOLD TAKE IT EASY. ABOUT A 1-2 SECOND DELAY HOLDING 9 DEGS OF PITCH THE ACFT DID LIFT OFF. THIS WAS APPROX 15 KTS ABOVE OUR V1 SPD. I HELD IT THERE UNTIL WE HAD ACCELERATED ANOTHER 15-20 KTS THEN STATED TO CONTINUE THE CLB. IT WAS THEN THAT I RECHK THE SPD CARD. TO MY SURPRISE AND I HAD NOT CAUGHT IT BEFORE DUE TO THE SPD BRAKE HANDLE BLOCKING THE FIRST DIGIT OF THE WT THAT WE HAD THE WRONG CARD SELECTED. WE HAD SET THE SPDS FOR A TKOF WT OF 270000 LBS INSTEAD OF 370000 LBS. I STATED TO HIM TO ADD 20 KTS TO ALL RETRACT SPDS. CLEANUP WAS COMPLETED WITHOUT ANY OTHER PROBS. UPON FURTHER DISCUSSION THE FO STATED HE OPENED THE SPD CARD AFTER WE HAD GOTTEN THE WT AND BAL BUT MADE AN ERROR. I LOOKED AT THE CARD WHEN WE SET THE SPDS BUT THE SPD BRAKE HANDLE HAD BLOCKED MY VIEW OF THE 2 IN 270000. IN THE FUTURE I THINK THAT VERIFYING THE SPD HOLDING THE CARD IN YOUR HAND INSTEAD OF PLACING IT OVER THE FMC WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED THE MISTAKE. FORTUNATELY THERE WAS NO ACFT DAMAGE. WE DISCUSSED DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES TO USE FOR ENSURING THAT THIS TYPE OF EVENT NEVER OCCURS AGAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.