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Attributes | |
ACN | 791578 |
Time | |
Date | 200806 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | HS 125 Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other other ndb |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 36 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 791578 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 791576 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After waiting over five hours to depart teb due to thunderstorms we were cleared via the teb 5 departure off runway 1. We loaded the FMS; we departed runway 1. Soon after departure the FMS dropped the departure; we had the raw data tuned as a back-up. This is a very complex departure with 3 altitude changes and numerous heading changes within the first mins after liftoff. By the time we switched to the raw data we were past the pnj NDB. Altitude was maintained and there was no conflict with other aircraft.supplemental information from acn 791576: FMS dropped waypoints had raw data tuned to pnj NDB but you have 2 turns and 3 altitudes in a matter of 1 to 2 mins after departure. Altitude was maintained but pnj was missed due to close proximity of the airport and of course the question what happened to the waypoints and by then you have missed pnj.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN HS-125 DEPARTING TEB DEVIATED FROM THE CHARTED COURSE WHEN THE FMS DUMPED THE DEP PROC.
Narrative: AFTER WAITING OVER FIVE HRS TO DEPART TEB DUE TO THUNDERSTORMS WE WERE CLEARED VIA THE TEB 5 DEP OFF RWY 1. WE LOADED THE FMS; WE DEPARTED RWY 1. SOON AFTER DEP THE FMS DROPPED THE DEP; WE HAD THE RAW DATA TUNED AS A BACK-UP. THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX DEP WITH 3 ALT CHANGES AND NUMEROUS HEADING CHANGES WITHIN THE FIRST MINS AFTER LIFTOFF. BY THE TIME WE SWITCHED TO THE RAW DATA WE WERE PAST THE PNJ NDB. ALTITUDE WAS MAINTAINED AND THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH OTHER ACFT.SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 791576: FMS DROPPED WAYPOINTS HAD RAW DATA TUNED TO PNJ NDB BUT YOU HAVE 2 TURNS AND 3 ALTS IN A MATTER OF 1 TO 2 MINS AFTER DEP. ALT WAS MAINTAINED BUT PNJ WAS MISSED DUE TO CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE ARPT AND OF COURSE THE QUESTION WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WAYPOINTS AND BY THEN YOU HAVE MISSED PNJ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.