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Attributes | |
ACN | 802788 |
Time | |
Date | 200809 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rctp.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 38000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 6615 flight time type : 3840 |
ASRS Report | 802788 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
The FMC arrs and departures for rctp are not coded as shown on our chart pages. The FMC coding does not mimic the chart coding. It's time consuming; not to mention prone to errors when you're cleared for an arrival and then you can't find it in the FMC without loading various arrs and matching waypoints to the chart pages on the legs page and/or viewing it in plan mode. Of course; we verify after loading an arrival; but we shouldn't be hunting for the proper arrival in this manner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777-200 FO REPORTS IDENTIFIERS FOR RCTP STARS ON PAPER CHARTS ARE NOT THE SAME AS THEIR EQUIVALENT IDENTIFIERS IN THE AIRCRAFT NAV DATABASE.
Narrative: THE FMC ARRS AND DEPS FOR RCTP ARE NOT CODED AS SHOWN ON OUR CHART PAGES. THE FMC CODING DOES NOT MIMIC THE CHART CODING. IT'S TIME CONSUMING; NOT TO MENTION PRONE TO ERRORS WHEN YOU'RE CLRED FOR AN ARR AND THEN YOU CAN'T FIND IT IN THE FMC WITHOUT LOADING VARIOUS ARRS AND MATCHING WAYPOINTS TO THE CHART PAGES ON THE LEGS PAGE AND/OR VIEWING IT IN PLAN MODE. OF COURSE; WE VERIFY AFTER LOADING AN ARR; BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE HUNTING FOR THE PROPER ARR IN THIS MANNER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.