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Crj flight crew on beert 4 arrival into mem proceed direct rgill from fam; rather than to arg as they were cleared. Captain suggests removing the lead-in line from fam to rgill as it may be confusing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 807809 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200810 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mem.airport |
| State Reference | TN |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme.artcc tracon : mem.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 700 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Route In Use | arrival star : beert4 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 807809 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared direct fam and I understood the BEERT4 arrival. After we passed fam ATC asked us if we were proceeding to arg. My first officer got into a conversation; don't remember the words but we had looked at the BEERT4 arrival and thought we were to go from fam 188 to rgill. ATC wanted fam; arg; evill; rgill. I reviewed our clearance and it showed fam direct arg. ATC said this happens a lot. There is a lead-in line from fam 188 that we followed. There is no line showing fam to arg on the beert 4 very confusing when you look at the lead in line from fam to rgill. Change the BEERT4 and remove the lead-in line from fam to rgill. A change is needed since ATC said this happens a lot.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ FLT CREW ON BEERT 4 ARR INTO MEM PROCEED DIRECT RGILL FROM FAM; RATHER THAN TO ARG AS THEY WERE CLEARED. CAPT SUGGESTS REMOVING THE LEAD-IN LINE FROM FAM TO RGILL AS IT MAY BE CONFUSING.
Narrative: WE WERE CLEARED DIRECT FAM AND I UNDERSTOOD THE BEERT4 ARRIVAL. AFTER WE PASSED FAM ATC ASKED US IF WE WERE PROCEEDING TO ARG. MY FO GOT INTO A CONVERSATION; DON'T REMEMBER THE WORDS BUT WE HAD LOOKED AT THE BEERT4 ARRIVAL AND THOUGHT WE WERE TO GO FROM FAM 188 TO RGILL. ATC WANTED FAM; ARG; EVILL; RGILL. I REVIEWED OUR CLEARANCE AND IT SHOWED FAM DIRECT ARG. ATC SAID THIS HAPPENS A LOT. THERE IS A LEAD-IN LINE FROM FAM 188 THAT WE FOLLOWED. THERE IS NO LINE SHOWING FAM TO ARG ON THE BEERT 4 VERY CONFUSING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEAD IN LINE FROM FAM TO RGILL. CHANGE THE BEERT4 AND REMOVE THE LEAD-IN LINE FROM FAM TO RGILL. A CHANGE IS NEEDED SINCE ATC SAID THIS HAPPENS A LOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.