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Air carrier flight crew reports missing change to filed route on pre departure clearance and has a track deviation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 812336 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200811 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Route In Use | departure sid : tdfz |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 177 flight time type : 6305 |
| ASRS Report | 812336 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 51 |
| ASRS Report | 812339 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The first officer; being right off of IOE; was doing a great job and had come from a prior position with a lot of B737 time. He did have some problems with the pre departure clearance on our first day when he did not notice our clearance had been changed from the original departure. I informed him to look for the '-' or '/' in the pre departure clearance -- that this is an amended clearance. Normally; I check the pre departure clearance when I check the FMC routing to make sure everything looks good. When we came to the departure brief; he stated we were cleared as filed. I mentioned that was strange and was he sure there was no departure but fly to the phx VOR then direct tus. He assured me that was the clearance. Our departure was routine when ATC questioned our heading. The first officer stated 130 degrees going direct to tus. The controller asked where we got that clearance. I then checked our pre departure clearance and found that there was an amended clearance to fly the tfd 2 departure. We received a heading at the time and joined the departure. I would like to see a pre departure clearance page that is a little less confusing than what we have. I also see no need to print both the amended clearance and the original clearance on the pre departure clearance. This seems to confuse some pilots as to what is your actual clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIR CARRIER FLIGHT CREW REPORTS MISSING CHANGE TO FILED ROUTE ON PDC AND HAS A TRACK DEVIATION.
Narrative: THE FO; BEING RIGHT OFF OF IOE; WAS DOING A GREAT JOB AND HAD COME FROM A PRIOR POSITION WITH A LOT OF B737 TIME. HE DID HAVE SOME PROBS WITH THE PDC ON OUR FIRST DAY WHEN HE DID NOT NOTICE OUR CLRNC HAD BEEN CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL DEP. I INFORMED HIM TO LOOK FOR THE '-' OR '/' IN THE PDC -- THAT THIS IS AN AMENDED CLRNC. NORMALLY; I CHK THE PDC WHEN I CHK THE FMC ROUTING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD. WHEN WE CAME TO THE DEP BRIEF; HE STATED WE WERE CLRED AS FILED. I MENTIONED THAT WAS STRANGE AND WAS HE SURE THERE WAS NO DEP BUT FLY TO THE PHX VOR THEN DIRECT TUS. HE ASSURED ME THAT WAS THE CLRNC. OUR DEP WAS ROUTINE WHEN ATC QUESTIONED OUR HDG. THE FO STATED 130 DEGS GOING DIRECT TO TUS. THE CTLR ASKED WHERE WE GOT THAT CLRNC. I THEN CHKED OUR PDC AND FOUND THAT THERE WAS AN AMENDED CLRNC TO FLY THE TFD 2 DEP. WE RECEIVED A HDG AT THE TIME AND JOINED THE DEP. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PDC PAGE THAT IS A LITTLE LESS CONFUSING THAN WHAT WE HAVE. I ALSO SEE NO NEED TO PRINT BOTH THE AMENDED CLRNC AND THE ORIGINAL CLRNC ON THE PDC. THIS SEEMS TO CONFUSE SOME PLTS AS TO WHAT IS YOUR ACTUAL CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.