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Attributes | |
ACN | 81299 |
Time | |
Date | 198802 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 81299 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
While on a visual approach to runway 26R in den, at about 5 mi out on final, we were advised that a commuter airplane was on a right base to runway 25. At the time the WX was cavu, but we were unable to pick out the traffic initially. When we did finally see him the aircraft was turning onto the final approach just ahead and to the right of us. I would estimate that he was slightly left of the centerline of runway 25. Latitude sep appeared to be 300' or less, and the aircraft appeared to be drifting toward the centerline of runway 26R, which put him in close proximity to us. I was forced to evade to the left to keep some semblance of sep, and by this time we were about 1 mi from the runway. A significant factor in this incident was that I was unable to get a word in with the tower to confirm that the commuter aircraft was in fact going to land on runway 25, and not 26R. Both aircraft landed west/O incident. I spoke to the tower supervisor on duty at the time and he agreed that it was a bad policy, but they were forced into it because of the heavy traffic load and of the speed differences between the different types of aircraft, they were unable to properly stagger the approachs. I believe that this is a dangerous situation and should be corrected.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT WAS FORCED TO GIVE WAY SLIGHTLY TO A COMMUTER ACFT TO MAINTAIN COMFORTABLE SEPARATION DURING PARALLEL VISUAL APCH TO DEN.
Narrative: WHILE ON A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 26R IN DEN, AT ABOUT 5 MI OUT ON FINAL, WE WERE ADVISED THAT A COMMUTER AIRPLANE WAS ON A RIGHT BASE TO RWY 25. AT THE TIME THE WX WAS CAVU, BUT WE WERE UNABLE TO PICK OUT THE TFC INITIALLY. WHEN WE DID FINALLY SEE HIM THE ACFT WAS TURNING ONTO THE FINAL APCH JUST AHEAD AND TO THE RIGHT OF US. I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT HE WAS SLIGHTLY LEFT OF THE CENTERLINE OF RWY 25. LAT SEP APPEARED TO BE 300' OR LESS, AND THE ACFT APPEARED TO BE DRIFTING TOWARD THE CENTERLINE OF RWY 26R, WHICH PUT HIM IN CLOSE PROX TO US. I WAS FORCED TO EVADE TO THE LEFT TO KEEP SOME SEMBLANCE OF SEP, AND BY THIS TIME WE WERE ABOUT 1 MI FROM THE RWY. A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN THIS INCIDENT WAS THAT I WAS UNABLE TO GET A WORD IN WITH THE TWR TO CONFIRM THAT THE COMMUTER ACFT WAS IN FACT GOING TO LAND ON RWY 25, AND NOT 26R. BOTH ACFT LANDED W/O INCIDENT. I SPOKE TO THE TWR SUPVR ON DUTY AT THE TIME AND HE AGREED THAT IT WAS A BAD POLICY, BUT THEY WERE FORCED INTO IT BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TFC LOAD AND OF THE SPD DIFFERENCES BTWN THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACFT, THEY WERE UNABLE TO PROPERLY STAGGER THE APCHS. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION AND SHOULD BE CORRECTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.