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Air carrier medium large transport operated over 100 miles off shore without proper floatation gear on board.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 81450 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198802 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pbi |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : ar7 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 81450 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Our route was from west palm beach to ny kennedy in an medium large transport aircraft and our clearance was AR7 to AR3 (EST) which is over water. This was my first trip over water so I checked the operations manual to see if we were legal in this aircraft to fly over water and it stated we were. When we arrived in ny I checked with the dispatcher and he stated that we might have had to leave life vest on board. I think this problem could have been prevented if our operations manual could have been more explicit such as a yes or no.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG OPERATED OVER 100 MILES OFF SHORE WITHOUT PROPER FLOATATION GEAR ON BOARD.
Narrative: OUR ROUTE WAS FROM WEST PALM BEACH TO NY KENNEDY IN AN MLG ACFT AND OUR CLRNC WAS AR7 TO AR3 (EST) WHICH IS OVER WATER. THIS WAS MY FIRST TRIP OVER WATER SO I CHECKED THE OPERATIONS MANUAL TO SEE IF WE WERE LEGAL IN THIS ACFT TO FLY OVER WATER AND IT STATED WE WERE. WHEN WE ARRIVED IN NY I CHECKED WITH THE DISPATCHER AND HE STATED THAT WE MIGHT HAVE HAD TO LEAVE LIFE VEST ON BOARD. I THINK THIS PROBLEM COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF OUR OPERATIONS MANUAL COULD HAVE BEEN MORE EXPLICIT SUCH AS A YES OR NO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.