Cleared to continue climb with reference to sighted traffic. Less than standard separation when traf...

Attributes
ACN	81987
Time
Date	198802
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : bwi
State Reference	MD
Altitude	msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : bwi
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute airway : bwi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	81987
Person 2
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 200 vertical : 1500
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Flight overflying bwi en route iad-phl IFR 7000'. Just after passing over bwi at approximately XA20 EST approach advised us of traffic at our 9 O'clock position, 3 mi 5000'. 'No contact.' air carrier flight en route bwi newark, nj called us in sight and cleared to 9000'to maintain visibility sep. Traffic was again called to us at 9 O'clock less than 1 mi 6200' and climbing. 'Still no contact.' ATC again questioned air carrier if they had us in sight because they were concerned with sep as per phone conversation with bwi approach controller. We then saw air carrier. He was at our 11 O'clock position just out of 7000' climbing rapidly less than on quarter mi away. Air carrier then confirmed they had us in sight 'directly below them at that time.' sometime later ATC bwi called the traffic out of 8000' and no longer a factor. I would call this a near miss but at best careless and reckless operation by the air carrier crew.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLEARED TO CONTINUE CLIMB WITH REFERENCE TO SIGHTED TRAFFIC. LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION WHEN TRAFFIC LOST.

Narrative: FLT OVERFLYING BWI ENRTE IAD-PHL IFR 7000'. JUST AFTER PASSING OVER BWI AT APPROX XA20 EST APCH ADVISED US OF TFC AT OUR 9 O'CLOCK POS, 3 MI 5000'. 'NO CONTACT.' ACR FLT ENRTE BWI NEWARK, NJ CALLED US IN SIGHT AND CLRED TO 9000'TO MAINTAIN VIS SEP. TFC WAS AGAIN CALLED TO US AT 9 O'CLOCK LESS THAN 1 MI 6200' AND CLBING. 'STILL NO CONTACT.' ATC AGAIN QUESTIONED ACR IF THEY HAD US IN SIGHT BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH SEP AS PER PHONE CONVERSATION WITH BWI APCH CTLR. WE THEN SAW ACR. HE WAS AT OUR 11 O'CLOCK POS JUST OUT OF 7000' CLBING RAPIDLY LESS THAN ON QUARTER MI AWAY. ACR THEN CONFIRMED THEY HAD US IN SIGHT 'DIRECTLY BELOW THEM AT THAT TIME.' SOMETIME LATER ATC BWI CALLED THE TFC OUT OF 8000' AND NO LONGER A FACTOR. I WOULD CALL THIS A NEAR MISS BUT AT BEST CARELESS AND RECKLESS OPERATION BY THE ACR CREW.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Cleared to continue climb with reference to sighted traffic. Less than standard separation when traffic lost.