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Attributes | |
ACN | 82023 |
Time | |
Date | 198802 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 17500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tracon : las |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 98 flight time total : 3128 flight time type : 345 |
ASRS Report | 82023 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3270 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 82014 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were on a ferry flight from paso robles, ca, to st george, ut, receiving VFR advisories from la center. Over boulder city we were terminated by center and told to squawk 1200. The captain started a descent out of 17500' towards hoover dam and stopped the descent around 9000' which is the top of las TCA. We aren't absolutely sure if we stopped before reaching 9000'. We then climbed to 9500' and continued to the east. About 20-25 mi east of las we descended to 7500'. I am reporting this because I'm not absolutely sure if we dropped below 9000'and if we were clear to the east before descending to 7500'. This situation could have been avoided by paying more attention to position, altitude, and relation to airspace. When flying on instrument flight plans all of the time, I never have to worry about staying clear of TCA's or other types of airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SUSPECTED VIOLATION OF TCA.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A FERRY FLT FROM PASO ROBLES, CA, TO ST GEORGE, UT, RECEIVING VFR ADVISORIES FROM LA CENTER. OVER BOULDER CITY WE WERE TERMINATED BY CENTER AND TOLD TO SQUAWK 1200. THE CAPT STARTED A DSCNT OUT OF 17500' TOWARDS HOOVER DAM AND STOPPED THE DSCNT AROUND 9000' WHICH IS THE TOP OF LAS TCA. WE AREN'T ABSOLUTELY SURE IF WE STOPPED BEFORE REACHING 9000'. WE THEN CLBED TO 9500' AND CONTINUED TO THE E. ABOUT 20-25 MI E OF LAS WE DSNDED TO 7500'. I AM RPTING THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE IF WE DROPPED BELOW 9000'AND IF WE WERE CLR TO THE E BEFORE DSNDING TO 7500'. THIS SITUATION COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY PAYING MORE ATTN TO POS, ALT, AND RELATION TO AIRSPACE. WHEN FLYING ON INSTRUMENT FLT PLANS ALL OF THE TIME, I NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT STAYING CLR OF TCA'S OR OTHER TYPES OF AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.