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Attributes | |
ACN | 820321 |
Time | |
Date | 200901 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | TEB.Airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | SID RUUDY |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 110 Flight Crew Total 9925 Flight Crew Type 365 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Departure |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
On a repositioning flight from teb to hpn; we departed runway 24; cleared for the ruudy one RNAV departure. We flew a heading of 240 degrees to 1500 ft MSL; then turned right direct wentz. Approaching wentz; ATC asked us our altitude; and the pilot not flying reported 'climbing 2000 ft; or 2000 ft.' ATC asked which departure we were on; then advised us we should be at 1500 ft; to which the PNF responded we would descend to 1500 ft. ATC said; 'no problem; just stay at 2000 ft;' and wanted to make sure we were on the same page with regard to the departure procedure. The ruudy one RNAV departure procedure specifies crossing wentz at 1500 ft; then tasca at 2000 ft or as assigned by ATC. There were no traffic conflicts during the event. During the pre-departure activities; the altitude preselect was selected to 2000 ft. Although this altitude was listed on the departure; 1500 ft should have been preselected initially as this was an intermediate leveloff altitude on the departure. Our company operates to teterboro on a regular basis; but since this was a new departure procedure we were not familiar with it and the crew should have studied it in more detail before takeoff. As the flying pilot I also should have briefed it more thoroughly; and assured the altitude preselect was set at 1500 ft until crossing wentz. On another note; it would also be helpful if the initial leveloff altitude was depicted more clearly on the commercial chart departure procedure page; as it leads to some confusion when more than one altitude is listed in bold.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL604 CAPTAIN REPORTS EXCEEDING 1500 FT ALTITUDE RESTRICTION ON THE RUUDY1 RNAV DEPARTING TEB.
Narrative: ON A REPOSITIONING FLIGHT FROM TEB TO HPN; WE DEPARTED RUNWAY 24; CLEARED FOR THE RUUDY ONE RNAV DEPARTURE. WE FLEW A HEADING OF 240 DEGREES TO 1500 FT MSL; THEN TURNED RIGHT DIRECT WENTZ. APPROACHING WENTZ; ATC ASKED US OUR ALTITUDE; AND THE PILOT NOT FLYING REPORTED 'CLIMBING 2000 FT; OR 2000 FT.' ATC ASKED WHICH DEPARTURE WE WERE ON; THEN ADVISED US WE SHOULD BE AT 1500 FT; TO WHICH THE PNF RESPONDED WE WOULD DESCEND TO 1500 FT. ATC SAID; 'NO PROBLEM; JUST STAY AT 2000 FT;' AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH REGARD TO THE DEPARTURE PROCEDURE. THE RUUDY ONE RNAV DEPARTURE PROCEDURE SPECIFIES CROSSING WENTZ AT 1500 FT; THEN TASCA AT 2000 FT OR AS ASSIGNED BY ATC. THERE WERE NO TRAFFIC CONFLICTS DURING THE EVENT. DURING THE PRE-DEPARTURE ACTIVITIES; THE ALTITUDE PRESELECT WAS SELECTED TO 2000 FT. ALTHOUGH THIS ALTITUDE WAS LISTED ON THE DEPARTURE; 1500 FT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESELECTED INITIALLY AS THIS WAS AN INTERMEDIATE LEVELOFF ALTITUDE ON THE DEPARTURE. OUR COMPANY OPERATES TO TETERBORO ON A REGULAR BASIS; BUT SINCE THIS WAS A NEW DEPARTURE PROCEDURE WE WERE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT AND THE CREW SHOULD HAVE STUDIED IT IN MORE DETAIL BEFORE TAKEOFF. AS THE FLYING PILOT I ALSO SHOULD HAVE BRIEFED IT MORE THOROUGHLY; AND ASSURED THE ALTITUDE PRESELECT WAS SET AT 1500 FT UNTIL CROSSING WENTZ. ON ANOTHER NOTE; IT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL IF THE INITIAL LEVELOFF ALTITUDE WAS DEPICTED MORE CLEARLY ON THE COMMERCIAL CHART DEPARTURE PROCEDURE PAGE; AS IT LEADS TO SOME CONFUSION WHEN MORE THAN ONE ALTITUDE IS LISTED IN BOLD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.