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Attributes | |
ACN | 82111 |
Time | |
Date | 198802 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bur |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 5500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 520 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 82111 |
Person 2 | |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Clearance through arsa from vny was south to reservoir, turn left over mountains, cross over observatory. Bur approach cleared me to 5500', then said I had entered the TCA. I do not think that I did enter the TCA, but if I did approach should have vectored me clear of the TCA, or had contact with lax to keep my legal. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: pilots intended route, direct poc VOR, would have given better distance from TCA boundary. If left to his own devices, pilot would have avoided TCA, he still feels he did. No FAA follow-up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT WITH CLRNC THROUGH ARSA POSSIBLY PENETRATED TCA.
Narrative: CLRNC THROUGH ARSA FROM VNY WAS S TO RESERVOIR, TURN LEFT OVER MOUNTAINS, CROSS OVER OBSERVATORY. BUR APCH CLRED ME TO 5500', THEN SAID I HAD ENTERED THE TCA. I DO NOT THINK THAT I DID ENTER THE TCA, BUT IF I DID APCH SHOULD HAVE VECTORED ME CLR OF THE TCA, OR HAD CONTACT WITH LAX TO KEEP MY LEGAL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: PLTS INTENDED RTE, DIRECT POC VOR, WOULD HAVE GIVEN BETTER DISTANCE FROM TCA BOUNDARY. IF LEFT TO HIS OWN DEVICES, PLT WOULD HAVE AVOIDED TCA, HE STILL FEELS HE DID. NO FAA FOLLOW-UP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.