Air carrier vectored off course to maintain separation from corp aircraft who did not receive turn i...

Attributes
ACN	83147
Time
Date	198802
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : chs
State Reference	SC
Altitude	msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 33000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zjx
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	enroute airway : zjx
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 35855 flight time type : 4100
ASRS Report	83147
Person 2
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Jax center asked me to descend to FL290. I started a 500 FPM descent. Then, he gave me a restriction, be at FL290 in 20 mi. I then increased my descent to 1500 FPM (much chatter on the frequency). I asked if I could climb back to FL330 when traffic permitted. Answer negative. I then asked for FL310 if traffic permitted and was informed reason for FL290 in 20 mi was southbound FL310 traffic. Next thing I heard, due to frequency being blocked, 'air carrier Y turn to 270 degrees due to a corp type X refusing to turn to 090.' I assumed he was talking about me, so I asked. 'Yes, you were told to turn to 090,' which I did not receive or roger for. Soon after we were turned over to wash center and informed by wash to call jax when we landed, collect if necessary. I called using my own expense and had a very nice conversation with shift boss. Asked if I was aware of traffic problem in and out of fl. My answer was yes, as I flew in and out of fl about 15 times/yr and have since 1979. Today it took us 1+31 to fly from naples to jax due to many vectors due jet traffic. I asked southern jax center sector for FL290 if it would help his traffic and let us go direct to jax, but no good luck for us due traffic. Reason we were put at FL290 when we were was due to 5 jets faster coming up behind us. This was told in phone conversation. Easier to move us (1) than 5. Also, reason we could not climb back up to FL330, told by jax center if should have descended faster at first than I did. (First time I ever heard that unless asked to descend faster.) because of altitude changes and vectors on this day, our flight from naples to providence was 34 mins longer than should have been. After the phone call with jax center, I figured we were the scapegoat or the quickest way out for a goof by somebody. We could have been lowered sooner west/O so much hurry. 5 jets faster coming up behind didn't just happen.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR VECTORED OFF COURSE TO MAINTAIN SEPARATION FROM CORP ACFT WHO DID NOT RECEIVE TURN ISSUED, AND WAS DESCENDING THROUGH ALT OF THE ACR. CORP PLT COMPLAINT REFERENCE ATC HANDLING.

Narrative: JAX CENTER ASKED ME TO DSND TO FL290. I STARTED A 500 FPM DSCNT. THEN, HE GAVE ME A RESTRICTION, BE AT FL290 IN 20 MI. I THEN INCREASED MY DSCNT TO 1500 FPM (MUCH CHATTER ON THE FREQ). I ASKED IF I COULD CLB BACK TO FL330 WHEN TFC PERMITTED. ANSWER NEGATIVE. I THEN ASKED FOR FL310 IF TFC PERMITTED AND WAS INFORMED REASON FOR FL290 IN 20 MI WAS SBND FL310 TFC. NEXT THING I HEARD, DUE TO FREQ BEING BLOCKED, 'ACR Y TURN TO 270 DEGS DUE TO A CORP TYPE X REFUSING TO TURN TO 090.' I ASSUMED HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ME, SO I ASKED. 'YES, YOU WERE TOLD TO TURN TO 090,' WHICH I DID NOT RECEIVE OR ROGER FOR. SOON AFTER WE WERE TURNED OVER TO WASH CENTER AND INFORMED BY WASH TO CALL JAX WHEN WE LANDED, COLLECT IF NECESSARY. I CALLED USING MY OWN EXPENSE AND HAD A VERY NICE CONVERSATION WITH SHIFT BOSS. ASKED IF I WAS AWARE OF TFC PROB IN AND OUT OF FL. MY ANSWER WAS YES, AS I FLEW IN AND OUT OF FL ABOUT 15 TIMES/YR AND HAVE SINCE 1979. TODAY IT TOOK US 1+31 TO FLY FROM NAPLES TO JAX DUE TO MANY VECTORS DUE JET TFC. I ASKED SOUTHERN JAX CENTER SECTOR FOR FL290 IF IT WOULD HELP HIS TFC AND LET US GO DIRECT TO JAX, BUT NO GOOD LUCK FOR US DUE TFC. REASON WE WERE PUT AT FL290 WHEN WE WERE WAS DUE TO 5 JETS FASTER COMING UP BEHIND US. THIS WAS TOLD IN PHONE CONVERSATION. EASIER TO MOVE US (1) THAN 5. ALSO, REASON WE COULD NOT CLB BACK UP TO FL330, TOLD BY JAX CENTER IF SHOULD HAVE DSNDED FASTER AT FIRST THAN I DID. (FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD THAT UNLESS ASKED TO DSND FASTER.) BECAUSE OF ALT CHANGES AND VECTORS ON THIS DAY, OUR FLT FROM NAPLES TO PROVIDENCE WAS 34 MINS LONGER THAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN. AFTER THE PHONE CALL WITH JAX CENTER, I FIGURED WE WERE THE SCAPEGOAT OR THE QUICKEST WAY OUT FOR A GOOF BY SOMEBODY. WE COULD HAVE BEEN LOWERED SOONER W/O SO MUCH HURRY. 5 JETS FASTER COMING UP BEHIND DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier vectored off course to maintain separation from corp aircraft who did not receive turn issued, and was descending through altitude of the air carrier. Corp pilot complaint reference ATC handling.