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Attributes | |
ACN | 831501 |
Time | |
Date | 200904 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | AML.VORTAC |
State Reference | VA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Falcon 10/100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 35 Flight Crew Total 8500 Flight Crew Type 600 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
We were west of iad being vectored northeasterly; for landing at iad. A descent to 4;000 ft was given by approach. Aml was being monitored on #2 DME; and being on a vector; #1 was set up for the ILS. When descent clearance was given; I believe we were a little more than 20 miles from aml. After monitoring the autopilot leveloff at 4;000 ft; I noticed we were just under 20 miles from aml (below class B airspace). Began slowing aircraft to 200 KTS. We may have gone back out beyond 20 DME for a little while before being turned toward the final course; but did not increase speed. Class B airspace was designed to accommodate aircraft landing and departing the primary airport. It helps with safety conflicts and separation with aircraft using other airports. When landing at a primary airport; I would like to see it used without dropping any aircraft underneath its veil of protection. And if it has to happen; approach should let their intent be known; so that speed can be decreased and vigilance increased.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IFR aircraft with PCT at 4000 landing IAD failed to adhere to speed requirements below Class B airspace; citing ATC failed to insure aircraft remained within the confines of protected airspace.
Narrative: We were west of IAD being vectored northeasterly; for landing at IAD. A descent to 4;000 FT was given by Approach. AML was being monitored on #2 DME; and being on a vector; #1 was set up for the ILS. When descent clearance was given; I believe we were a little more than 20 miles from AML. After monitoring the autopilot leveloff at 4;000 FT; I noticed we were just under 20 miles from AML (below Class B airspace). Began slowing aircraft to 200 KTS. We may have gone back out beyond 20 DME for a little while before being turned toward the final course; but did not increase speed. Class B airspace was designed to accommodate aircraft landing and departing the primary airport. It helps with safety conflicts and separation with aircraft using other airports. When landing at a primary airport; I would like to see it used without dropping any aircraft underneath its veil of protection. And if it has to happen; Approach should let their intent be known; so that speed can be decreased and vigilance increased.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.