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Attributes | |
ACN | 83610 |
Time | |
Date | 198803 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12200 flight time type : 60 |
ASRS Report | 83610 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Reference mmel 21-1-3 that refer to a bleed air fail annunciator light of the light transport (with first officer artificial horizon air driven) and allows deferral with bleed switch in instrument and environmental off the values secured in closed position. Then thumbing through the MEL to 27-1 reference instrument air valves/sources and only VMC day allowed with one inoperative makes you illegal where you are (IMC) and yet they are not cross-referenced for air driven gyro installations. Recommend referencing VMC only, day only, etc to all MEL conditions where it is limiting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMPLAINT ABOUT CROSS REFERENCE OF ITEMS IN COMMUTER LTT MEL.
Narrative: REFERENCE MMEL 21-1-3 THAT REFER TO A BLEED AIR FAIL ANNUNCIATOR LIGHT OF THE LTT (WITH F/O ARTIFICIAL HORIZON AIR DRIVEN) AND ALLOWS DEFERRAL WITH BLEED SWITCH IN INSTRUMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL OFF THE VALUES SECURED IN CLOSED POSITION. THEN THUMBING THROUGH THE MEL TO 27-1 REFERENCE INSTRUMENT AIR VALVES/SOURCES AND ONLY VMC DAY ALLOWED WITH ONE INOP MAKES YOU ILLEGAL WHERE YOU ARE (IMC) AND YET THEY ARE NOT CROSS-REFERENCED FOR AIR DRIVEN GYRO INSTALLATIONS. RECOMMEND REFERENCING VMC ONLY, DAY ONLY, ETC TO ALL MEL CONDITIONS WHERE IT IS LIMITING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.