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Attributes | |
ACN | 839146 |
Time | |
Date | 200906 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | C90.TRACON |
State Reference | IL |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR GSH |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 70 Flight Crew Total 6800 Flight Crew Type 85 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 0 Vertical 400 |
Narrative:
Received a traffic advisory from TRACON regarding traffic identified at 400 ft above and converging from approximately 1130-1200 o'clock position. The controller also issued a vector upon reaching the next fix on our route. About 10 seconds later TCAS generated a 'traffic' alert followed which was soon followed by a 'descend' command. I did not visually acquire the target prior to the 'descend' command. Upon receiving the 'descend' RA I disconnected the autopilot and simultaneously began a descent as commanded on my vsi. The descent resulted in an approximate 300-400 foot altitude loss. I then received a 'clear of conflict' and I returned the aircraft to the assigned altitude. In the meanwhile; the first officer; as soon as there was a break in other ATC radio communications announced that our aircraft was descending for TCAS. Upon arrival into mdw I was asked to call TRACON. The controller that I spoke to at TRACON asked for my pilot certificate information and address and stated that they understood we responded to a TCAS RA; but had to document the situation since there was a loss of separation. Being aware of the potential conflict and the busy radio I would like to have had the vector prior to the next fix; I believe this would have remedied the RA in advance. We were going to make that request when it appeared evident that the traffic would be a conflict; but were not able to get a break in the radio in those few moments.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air taxi flight crew with C90 TRACON experienced TCAS RA event at 5000 FT with issued traffic; subsequent descent resulted in an ATC loss of separation.
Narrative: Received a traffic advisory from TRACON regarding traffic identified at 400 FT above and converging from approximately 1130-1200 o'clock position. The Controller also issued a vector upon reaching the next fix on our route. About 10 seconds later TCAS generated a 'TRAFFIC' alert followed which was soon followed by a 'DESCEND' command. I did not visually acquire the target prior to the 'DESCEND' command. Upon receiving the 'DESCEND' RA I disconnected the autopilot and simultaneously began a descent as commanded on my VSI. The descent resulted in an approximate 300-400 foot altitude loss. I then received a 'CLEAR OF CONFLICT' and I returned the aircraft to the assigned altitude. In the meanwhile; the First Officer; as soon as there was a break in other ATC radio communications announced that our aircraft was descending for TCAS. Upon arrival into MDW I was asked to call TRACON. The Controller that I spoke to at TRACON asked for my pilot certificate information and address and stated that they understood we responded to a TCAS RA; but had to document the situation since there was a loss of separation. Being aware of the potential conflict and the busy radio I would like to have had the vector prior to the next fix; I believe this would have remedied the RA in advance. We were going to make that request when it appeared evident that the traffic would be a conflict; but were not able to get a break in the radio in those few moments.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.