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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 845226 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200907 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | OMDB.Airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B747-400 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 100 Flight Crew Total 19000 Flight Crew Type 5500 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Relief Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 115 Flight Crew Total 12000 Flight Crew Type 3100 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
Shortly after takeoff with the captain flying the airplane manually we received a clearance to turn left heading 260. I set the MCP panel and was taking care of the next ATC clearance on the FMC which was to accelerate to 300KTS or more when I noticed he was still in a 25 degree left bank way past the cleared heading. He started a right turn to heading 260 after I called it out. As I went down to the FMC to finish the task of canceling the speed limit I noticed he was descending at about 1500 FPM; he did not take corrective action after I called out 'you are descending' and the other first officer sitting on the jump seat called 'altitude' so I reached the lower part of the control column and applied back pressure to make sure we are climbing and I suggested to use the auto pilot which was denied; when I went down to the FMC to eventually take care of the speed and the way point we were cleared direct to; I noticed he is descending again ( from 3000 to 2700 feet at about 1500fpm )and we are overshooting the flap speed. I pulled the nose up again for climb and selected flaps up and called for auto pilot activation the second time; which was denied again. Basically we overshot the cleared heading; descended twice during initial climb and over sped the flaps. Had we used the auto pilot; none of this would have happened.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: First Officer and Relief Pilot of a B747-400 on a long range flight had to intervene when the Captain was not responsive to their calls regarding course and altitude deviations.
Narrative: Shortly after takeoff with the Captain flying the airplane manually we received a clearance to turn left heading 260. I set the MCP panel and was taking care of the next ATC clearance on the FMC which was to accelerate to 300KTS or more when I noticed he was still in a 25 degree left bank way past the cleared heading. He started a right turn to heading 260 after I called it out. As I went down to the FMC to finish the task of canceling the speed limit I noticed he was descending at about 1500 FPM; He did not take corrective action after I called out 'you are Descending' and the other First Officer sitting on the Jump seat called 'Altitude' so I reached the lower part of the control column and applied back pressure to make sure we are climbing and I suggested to use the Auto Pilot which was denied; when I went down to the FMC to eventually take care of the speed and the way point we were cleared direct to; I noticed he is descending again ( From 3000 to 2700 feet at about 1500fpm )and we are overshooting the flap speed. I pulled the nose up again for climb and selected flaps up and called for Auto Pilot activation the second time; which was denied again. Basically we overshot the cleared heading; descended twice during initial climb and over sped the flaps. Had we used the Auto Pilot; none of this would have happened.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.