A B767 crew taxied out from lax gateway cargo parking and crossed the taxiway B hold short line. The...

Narrative:

We were pushed back from the parking spot at the lax gateway in the cargo area. During the push; our tail was pushed east and then we were pulled forward close to but short of taxiway B. Engine start sequence was normal; the after start checklist completed and the mechanic was cleared off headset. I asked the first officer to contact ground for taxi clearance. Ground instructed us to taxi to 25R hold short of taxiway B and monitor tower. I verified the mechanic with pins was clear; turned on the taxi light and got a forward taxi signal from the marshaller. I called for flaps 15 and released the brakes to ease forward and was looking at the hold short line for 25R while the first officer went heads down to position the flaps and change the radio to tower frequency. As I was moving forward I sensed something was not right and applied the brakes as the first officer looked up he said 'hold short of taxiway B.' we had passed over the hold short line for taxiway B. The closest aircraft was taxing east on taxiway B; short of F. I then instructed the first officer to notify tower that we had passed over the hold short line for taxiway B. Tower then asked a B-757 taxing east on taxiway B for 25R if he could continue on taxiway B and he said clearance was not a problem. After four more aircraft passed us we were cleared to hold short of 25R and subsequently cleared for a 25R take off. The take off and the remainder of flight were normal. I realize now that I had focused on the hold short line for 25R since it was so close and prominently marked while the hold line for taxiway B was less prominent because it was just barely visible looking out over the nose and there is no sign that identifies taxiway B. I inadvertently crossed the taxiway B line by fixating on the 25R hold short line and allowing the aircraft to ease forward and not waiting until the first officer was heads up so he could back me up and monitor our progress. A crew must remain 100% vigilant at all times and never relax. After this event I recommend that the paint on the B cargo area be refreshed and signage for taxiway B be erected. This would make the demarcation between the B cargo area and taxiway B clearly visible and give crews better visual cues for fixing their position and reduces the chance for recurrence.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B767 crew taxied out from LAX Gateway Cargo parking and crossed the Taxiway B hold short line. There was no obvious signage for Taxiway B and the Runway 25R hold short line is very close by.

Narrative: We were pushed back from the parking spot at the LAX gateway in the Cargo Area. During the push; our tail was pushed east and then we were pulled forward close to but short of Taxiway B. Engine start sequence was normal; the after start checklist completed and the mechanic was cleared off headset. I asked the First Officer to contact ground for taxi clearance. Ground instructed us to taxi to 25R hold short of Taxiway B and monitor tower. I verified the mechanic with pins was clear; turned on the taxi light and got a forward taxi signal from the marshaller. I called for flaps 15 and released the brakes to ease forward and was looking at the hold short line for 25R while the First Officer went heads down to position the flaps and change the radio to tower frequency. As I was moving forward I sensed something was not right and applied the brakes as the First Officer looked up he said 'hold short of Taxiway B.' We had passed over the hold short line for Taxiway B. The closest aircraft was taxing east on taxiway B; short of F. I then instructed the First Officer to notify tower that we had passed over the hold short line for Taxiway B. Tower then asked a B-757 taxing east on taxiway B for 25R if he could continue on Taxiway B and he said clearance was not a problem. After four more aircraft passed us we were cleared to hold short of 25R and subsequently cleared for a 25R take off. The take off and the remainder of flight were normal. I realize now that I had focused on the hold short line for 25R since it was so close and prominently marked while the hold line for taxiway B was less prominent because it was just barely visible looking out over the nose and there is no sign that identifies Taxiway B. I inadvertently crossed the Taxiway B line by fixating on the 25R hold short line and allowing the aircraft to ease forward and not waiting until the First Officer was heads up so he could back me up and monitor our progress. A crew must remain 100% vigilant at all times and never relax. After this event I recommend that the paint on the B Cargo Area be refreshed and signage for Taxiway B be erected. This would make the demarcation between the B Cargo Area and Taxiway B clearly visible and give crews better visual cues for fixing their position and reduces the chance for recurrence.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Attributes
ACN	845629
Time
Date	200907
Local Time Of Day	0601-1200
Place
Locale Reference	LAX.Airport
State Reference	CA
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	B767-300 and 300 ER
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Taxi
Route In Use	None
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Captain
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 110 Flight Crew Total 12000 Flight Crew Type 3080
Person 2
Function	First Officer
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 25 Flight Crew Total 7000 Flight Crew Type 800
Events
Anomaly	Deviation - Procedural Clearance Ground Incursion Taxiway

A B767 crew taxied out from lax gateway cargo parking and crossed the taxiway B hold short line. There was no obvious signage for taxiway B and the runway 25R hold short line is very close by.