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Attributes | |
ACN | 848809 |
Time | |
Date | 200908 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LGB.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream G200 (IAI 1126 Galaxy) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Ground Incursion Runway |
Narrative:
Today on descent enroute to long beach airport we briefed arrival to runway 30; which was indicated on ATIS as the arrival runway. Also; we briefed and discussed possible taxi routes between pilots possible taxi instructions to the FBO; taxi instructions included crossing runway 7R/25L. Upon close proximity to the airport; ATC switched the landing runway from 30 to 12. As the flying pilot; I landed the plane and we exited at D2 with instructions from tower; which included and repeated by me our call sign; which were 'air carrier abcx.' after the tower switching to ground; our suffix was pronounced again a few times by me; and by ATC. Instructions by the ground were 'taxi to FBO via delta foxtrot.' I replied to ATC the taxi instructions and began the after-landing checklist; continuing with the flight times and fuel usage. At this time; all my attention was directed to the checklist and the FMS. I completed my after-landing assignments at the time the aircraft started to cross runway 7R/25L; which is an inactive runway. At this point; I said two things; 'we are cleared on my side;' and after we crossed the runway; 'this would be a good time to submit a report.' shortly after that; ground control came on and said we missed the taxiway and gave us different instructions. 1. In order for our company to help us remember when we have a plane in the process of changing ownership; the suffix X has been implemented at the end of the call-sign; so that the pilots do not forget the limitation of not being able to leave the united states. In my opinion; this word has two meanings; taxiway or pink-slipped-plane. In some situations; I think it is possible to confuse this pink-slip code with a taxiway; simply because for so many years pilots have not been used to having any letters after the call-sign. This is what I think happened on this occasion. 2. After repeating a few times the suffix with the tower and ground frequency over a short period of time; this gives the impression that we are being given taxiway instructions--completely forgetting about the same call-sign letters which signify something completely different. This should be changed. 3. If on descent; shortly before landing ATC changes instructions with landing to another runway; it would be beneficial to establish a procedure which might include after landing on the un-briefed runway; stopping the aircraft on the taxiway; briefing the new taxi instructions; and after that; continuing with all after-landing checklists.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: G200 flight crew experienced a runway incursion at LGB after landing while holding a sidebar conversation with ATC regarding their company call sign procedures.
Narrative: Today on descent enroute to Long Beach Airport we briefed arrival to Runway 30; which was indicated on ATIS as the arrival runway. Also; we briefed and discussed possible taxi routes between pilots possible taxi instructions to the FBO; taxi instructions included crossing Runway 7R/25L. Upon close proximity to the airport; ATC switched the landing runway from 30 to 12. As the flying pilot; I landed the plane and we exited at D2 with instructions from Tower; which included and repeated by me our call sign; which were 'Air Carrier ABCX.' After the Tower switching to Ground; our suffix was pronounced again a few times by me; and by ATC. Instructions by the Ground were 'TAXI to FBO VIA Delta Foxtrot.' I replied to ATC the taxi instructions and began the after-landing checklist; continuing with the flight times and fuel usage. At this time; all my attention was directed to the checklist and the FMS. I completed my after-landing assignments at the time the aircraft started to cross Runway 7R/25L; which is an inactive runway. At this point; I said two things; 'We are cleared on my side;' and after we crossed the runway; 'this would be a good time to submit a report.' Shortly after that; ground control came on and said we missed the taxiway and gave us different instructions. 1. In order for our company to help us remember when we have a plane in the process of changing ownership; the suffix X has been implemented at the end of the call-sign; so that the pilots do not forget the limitation of not being able to leave the United States. In my opinion; this word has two meanings; taxiway or pink-slipped-plane. In some situations; I think it is possible to confuse this pink-slip code with a taxiway; simply because for so many years pilots have not been used to having any letters after the call-sign. This is what I think happened on this occasion. 2. After repeating a few times the suffix with the tower and ground frequency over a short period of time; this gives the impression that we are being given taxiway instructions--completely forgetting about the same call-sign letters which signify something completely different. This should be changed. 3. If on descent; shortly before landing ATC changes instructions with landing to another runway; it would be beneficial to establish a procedure which might include after landing on the un-briefed runway; stopping the aircraft on the taxiway; briefing the new taxi instructions; and after that; continuing with all after-landing checklists.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.