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Attributes | |
ACN | 85267 |
Time | |
Date | 198804 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lck |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 85267 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 85439 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Our departure from lck was normal except for a comment from the copilot (who was flying) that the nose felt heavy on rotation. Climb was normal except that the last few thousand ft were slow for an aircraft of 739221 pounds gtow (maximum gross 820000 pounds). Fuel burn was slightly higher than normal. En route and landing normal. Upon arrival panc we asked operations if we could have been heavier than shown. They told us that 33840# of belly freight was left off the weight and balance at lck. Two factors stand out here: 1) ground operations was under pressure to depart us rapidly as we were running out of duty time (we departed 3 mins before cancelling). 2) no attempt was made by the air carrier company to contact us en route and inform us of the overload condition. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: report was made to company and an investigation is in progess. Dispatch was aware of the error long before the flight arrived at destination. No explanation as to why they were not advised. Suspects some changes are going to be made and some heads may roll.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WEIGHT MANIFEST IN ERROR BY 32000 POUNDS. FLT CREW NOT ADVISED.
Narrative: OUR DEP FROM LCK WAS NORMAL EXCEPT FOR A COMMENT FROM THE COPLT (WHO WAS FLYING) THAT THE NOSE FELT HEAVY ON ROTATION. CLB WAS NORMAL EXCEPT THAT THE LAST FEW THOUSAND FT WERE SLOW FOR AN ACFT OF 739221 LBS GTOW (MAX GROSS 820000 LBS). FUEL BURN WAS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN NORMAL. ENRTE AND LNDG NORMAL. UPON ARR PANC WE ASKED OPS IF WE COULD HAVE BEEN HEAVIER THAN SHOWN. THEY TOLD US THAT 33840# OF BELLY FREIGHT WAS LEFT OFF THE WT AND BALANCE AT LCK. TWO FACTORS STAND OUT HERE: 1) GND OPS WAS UNDER PRESSURE TO DEPART US RAPIDLY AS WE WERE RUNNING OUT OF DUTY TIME (WE DEPARTED 3 MINS BEFORE CANCELLING). 2) NO ATTEMPT WAS MADE BY THE ACR COMPANY TO CONTACT US ENRTE AND INFORM US OF THE OVERLOAD CONDITION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPT WAS MADE TO COMPANY AND AN INVESTIGATION IS IN PROGESS. DISPATCH WAS AWARE OF THE ERROR LONG BEFORE THE FLT ARRIVED AT DEST. NO EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THEY WERE NOT ADVISED. SUSPECTS SOME CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE MADE AND SOME HEADS MAY ROLL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.