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GA small aircraft on training flight taxied past runway hold line causing small aircraft on final to go around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 85928 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198804 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dab |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dab |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 85928 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Student pilot and flight instrument xed hold line when instructed by ATC to hold short of runway 07R. Flight instrument stopped aircraft, but too late. Flight instrument asked student what he was doing and was told ATC clearance word for word, but student thought that the clearance meant something else. Flight instrument returned control to student to remain stopped or return to runup area, but student continued to taxi onto the active runway. In the meantime another aircraft taxied up to the hold line making it difficult to taxi off the active runway, so student and flight instrument were committed to taxi into position and hold on runway 07R. This action caused a landing aircraft to do a right 360 degrees turn for spacing until we departed. The landing aircraft was 1/2-1 mi from the landing threshold when this incident occurred. There was no aircraft on final at initial incident time period. Situation occurred because student-flight instrument miscom. Student thought ATC instructions were to taxi into position and hold, but in reality ATC instructions were to hold short runway 07R. Flight instrument thought student understood the ATC clearance, but he obviously didn't when he returned control of aircraft to him, he still didn't understand the clearance when he thought he understood it therefore crossing hold line. Flight instrument should have taken aircraft off the runway the first time, but didn't because he thought the student knew the situation and would act accordingly. Daytona beach regl airport is a primary pilot and ATC training facility it would be advised to have controllers maybe say ATC clrncs slower due to the high vol of student pilots, in most cases ATC isn't told which aircraft are piloted by student pilots or above ATC assumes that the pilot is a private pilot or better, but majority of aircraft are piloted by student pilots or low time private pilots. The flight instrument should have informed ATC that there was student pilot onboard operating the aircraft at that time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA ON TRAINING FLT TAXIED PAST RWY HOLD LINE CAUSING SMA ON FINAL TO GO AROUND.
Narrative: STUDENT PLT AND FLT INSTR XED HOLD LINE WHEN INSTRUCTED BY ATC TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 07R. FLT INSTR STOPPED ACFT, BUT TOO LATE. FLT INSTR ASKED STUDENT WHAT HE WAS DOING AND WAS TOLD ATC CLRNC WORD FOR WORD, BUT STUDENT THOUGHT THAT THE CLRNC MEANT SOMETHING ELSE. FLT INSTR RETURNED CTL TO STUDENT TO REMAIN STOPPED OR RETURN TO RUNUP AREA, BUT STUDENT CONTINUED TO TAXI ONTO THE ACTIVE RWY. IN THE MEANTIME ANOTHER ACFT TAXIED UP TO THE HOLD LINE MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO TAXI OFF THE ACTIVE RWY, SO STUDENT AND FLT INSTR WERE COMMITTED TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 07R. THIS ACTION CAUSED A LNDG ACFT TO DO A RIGHT 360 DEGS TURN FOR SPACING UNTIL WE DEPARTED. THE LNDG ACFT WAS 1/2-1 MI FROM THE LNDG THRESHOLD WHEN THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED. THERE WAS NO ACFT ON FINAL AT INITIAL INCIDENT TIME PERIOD. SITUATION OCCURRED BECAUSE STUDENT-FLT INSTR MISCOM. STUDENT THOUGHT ATC INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD, BUT IN REALITY ATC INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO HOLD SHORT RWY 07R. FLT INSTR THOUGHT STUDENT UNDERSTOOD THE ATC CLRNC, BUT HE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T WHEN HE RETURNED CTL OF ACFT TO HIM, HE STILL DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CLRNC WHEN HE THOUGHT HE UNDERSTOOD IT THEREFORE XING HOLD LINE. FLT INSTR SHOULD HAVE TAKEN ACFT OFF THE RWY THE FIRST TIME, BUT DIDN'T BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THE STUDENT KNEW THE SITUATION AND WOULD ACT ACCORDINGLY. DAYTONA BEACH REGL ARPT IS A PRIMARY PLT AND ATC TRNING FAC IT WOULD BE ADVISED TO HAVE CTLRS MAYBE SAY ATC CLRNCS SLOWER DUE TO THE HIGH VOL OF STUDENT PLTS, IN MOST CASES ATC ISN'T TOLD WHICH ACFT ARE PILOTED BY STUDENT PLTS OR ABOVE ATC ASSUMES THAT THE PLT IS A PVT PLT OR BETTER, BUT MAJORITY OF ACFT ARE PILOTED BY STUDENT PLTS OR LOW TIME PVT PLTS. THE FLT INSTR SHOULD HAVE INFORMED ATC THAT THERE WAS STUDENT PLT ONBOARD OPERATING THE ACFT AT THAT TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.