Narrative:

While flying from kpsp and with flight following from joshua approach; I was flying northwesterly near V-165 about 20 miles northwest of palmdale VOR when a climbing military aircraft; exiting the edwards complex; crossed from right to left about 500 feet in front of me. I was calling joshua approach to advise them of the nearby traffic; which they had not called out; when a second military aircraft appeared in the right side of my windshield. I abruptly dove my plane; and passed under the second military aircraft. Joshua approach took a long time to respond to my call; and then said that he had been busy performing other tasks. The military aircraft then called joshua requesting flight following. When joshua asked if the military aircraft had seen us; the military aircraft responded that he had passed about 200 feet over us. Joshua asked if I wanted to file a near miss report; and I declined. The causes were: 1. I mistakenly assumed that while under flight following with joshua approach; I would be protected from military traffic. I now realize that traffic avoidance on a 'work permitting' basis applies even with the military. 2. The two military aircraft were climbing from below my right side; and were not visible from the left seat until at my altitude and very close. 3. When I was startled by the first military aircraft; I didn't consider that there could be a flight of two. 4. The military aircraft were coming from my right side; so they had the right of way; if I had only known they were there. 5. The military aircraft were probably still talking to edwards' tower; and hadn't contacted joshua yet. 6. The military aircraft pilots were probably very busy inside the cockpit cleaning up the planes after takeoff; and weren't looking outside. The best way to prevent a recurrence would be for military planes to contact joshua approach before exiting the edwards complex. See and avoid doesn't work when a plane on a collision course is climbing in an area blocked from view.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: VFR General Aviation aircraft with E10 TRACON at 8500' experienced NMAC with two Military Aircraft; no traffic issued by ATC; reporter added; see and avoid doesn't always work.

Narrative: While flying from KPSP and with flight following from Joshua Approach; I was flying northwesterly near V-165 about 20 miles northwest of Palmdale VOR when a climbing Military Aircraft; exiting the Edwards Complex; crossed from right to left about 500 feet in front of me. I was calling Joshua Approach to advise them of the nearby traffic; which they had not called out; when a second Military Aircraft appeared in the right side of my windshield. I abruptly dove my plane; and passed under the second Military Aircraft. Joshua Approach took a long time to respond to my call; and then said that he had been busy performing other tasks. The Military Aircraft then called Joshua requesting flight following. When Joshua asked if the Military Aircraft had seen us; the Military Aircraft responded that he had passed about 200 feet over us. Joshua asked if I wanted to file a near miss report; and I declined. The causes were: 1. I mistakenly assumed that while under flight following with Joshua Approach; I would be protected from military traffic. I now realize that traffic avoidance on a 'work permitting' basis applies even with the military. 2. The two Military Aircraft were climbing from below my right side; and were not visible from the left seat until at my altitude and very close. 3. When I was startled by the first Military Aircraft; I didn't consider that there could be a flight of two. 4. The Military Aircraft were coming from my right side; so they had the right of way; if I had only known they were there. 5. The Military Aircraft were probably still talking to Edwards' Tower; and hadn't contacted Joshua yet. 6. The Military Aircraft pilots were probably very busy inside the cockpit cleaning up the planes after takeoff; and weren't looking outside. The best way to prevent a recurrence would be for military planes to contact Joshua Approach before exiting the Edwards Complex. See and avoid doesn't work when a plane on a collision course is climbing in an area blocked from view.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.