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Attributes | |
ACN | 86003 |
Time | |
Date | 198804 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jot |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 437 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 86003 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was on an IFR flight plan from msn to 1c5. Altitude assigned in chicago approach airspace was 4000', conditions were VFR 5-6 mi. When I left madison, it was 1100 broken raining with conditions improving as I backed through a cold front. As I was handed off from rockford to chicago airspace. Chicago seemed to be having difficulty hearing me and other aircraft. I called 5 times, another aircraft called 5 times and another the controller couldn't hear at all (although I could). The controller was getting frustrated with the inability to hear us. (I don't know if this contributed or not to not seeing or reporting traffic.) they wanted me to go direct jot VOR and descend to 4000' which I did. Over auburn it was getting to be VFR and I was just about ready to cancel IFR when a twin small aircraft cut right across my flight path, from left to right. I don't remember moving the aircraft. It happened so fast. My heading was about 150 degrees. His must have been about 270-290 degrees and 4100'. I don't believe he took any evasive action. I recall him being so close I could read his numbers which were xx. He went by so fast the only one I recall was the first one. I told approach about the near miss and I talked to the shift supervisor on the ground by phone. He stated, when I called the near miss, the controller called him over to the scope and they did not see any interfering traffic at all. I filed a report with the area manager and he said he would review the tapes. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter has heard nothing back from the supervisor on the tapes, but since supervisor looked at scope and could find no target was probably non transponder and consequently tapes will show nothing. Other small aircraft was going wnw, probably headed for dpa or rfd.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN 2 GA-SMA'S.
Narrative: I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN FROM MSN TO 1C5. ALT ASSIGNED IN CHICAGO APCH AIRSPACE WAS 4000', CONDITIONS WERE VFR 5-6 MI. WHEN I LEFT MADISON, IT WAS 1100 BKN RAINING WITH CONDITIONS IMPROVING AS I BACKED THROUGH A COLD FRONT. AS I WAS HANDED OFF FROM ROCKFORD TO CHICAGO AIRSPACE. CHICAGO SEEMED TO BE HAVING DIFFICULTY HEARING ME AND OTHER ACFT. I CALLED 5 TIMES, ANOTHER ACFT CALLED 5 TIMES AND ANOTHER THE CTLR COULDN'T HEAR AT ALL (ALTHOUGH I COULD). THE CTLR WAS GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH THE INABILITY TO HEAR US. (I DON'T KNOW IF THIS CONTRIBUTED OR NOT TO NOT SEEING OR RPTING TFC.) THEY WANTED ME TO GO DIRECT JOT VOR AND DSND TO 4000' WHICH I DID. OVER AUBURN IT WAS GETTING TO BE VFR AND I WAS JUST ABOUT READY TO CANCEL IFR WHEN A TWIN SMA CUT RIGHT ACROSS MY FLT PATH, FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. I DON'T REMEMBER MOVING THE ACFT. IT HAPPENED SO FAST. MY HDG WAS ABOUT 150 DEGS. HIS MUST HAVE BEEN ABOUT 270-290 DEGS AND 4100'. I DON'T BELIEVE HE TOOK ANY EVASIVE ACTION. I RECALL HIM BEING SO CLOSE I COULD READ HIS NUMBERS WHICH WERE XX. HE WENT BY SO FAST THE ONLY ONE I RECALL WAS THE FIRST ONE. I TOLD APCH ABOUT THE NEAR MISS AND I TALKED TO THE SHIFT SUPVR ON THE GND BY PHONE. HE STATED, WHEN I CALLED THE NEAR MISS, THE CTLR CALLED HIM OVER TO THE SCOPE AND THEY DID NOT SEE ANY INTERFERING TFC AT ALL. I FILED A RPT WITH THE AREA MGR AND HE SAID HE WOULD REVIEW THE TAPES. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR HAS HEARD NOTHING BACK FROM THE SUPVR ON THE TAPES, BUT SINCE SUPVR LOOKED AT SCOPE AND COULD FIND NO TARGET WAS PROBABLY NON TRANSPONDER AND CONSEQUENTLY TAPES WILL SHOW NOTHING. OTHER SMA WAS GOING WNW, PROBABLY HEADED FOR DPA OR RFD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.