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Air carrier large transport reported a conflict with small aircraft after changing to ARTCC frequency. No traffic advisories from departure controller, aircraft not seen by TRACON radar.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 86222 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198804 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mia |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 3 controller radar : 7 |
| ASRS Report | 86222 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At approximately XA52Z an air carrier departure off miami northbound, asked me if I had traffic behind him. After his question, I checked air carrier position and did observe traffic in his area. The pilot of air carrier reported an aircraft at his altitude near him. After I had instructed air carrier to contact miami center, a miami center controller called me and advised that the air carrier pilot wanted to report a near miss. I then informed my supervisor of the situation. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter stated years of ATC and proximity of traffic. Small aircraft apparently flying over the top of the TCA and was not observed until after the incident. Aircraft was not squawking and primary targets hard to see in this area. Final report on incident never seen by reporter, but controller was not charged with anything. Suspect considered pilot deviation on small aircraft or see and avoid.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT REPORTED A CONFLICT WITH SMA AFTER CHANGING TO ARTCC FREQ. NO TRAFFIC ADVISORIES FROM DEP CTLR, ACFT NOT SEEN BY TRACON RADAR.
Narrative: AT APPROX XA52Z AN ACR DEP OFF MIAMI NBND, ASKED ME IF I HAD TFC BEHIND HIM. AFTER HIS QUESTION, I CHECKED ACR POSITION AND DID OBSERVE TFC IN HIS AREA. THE PLT OF ACR REPORTED AN ACFT AT HIS ALT NEAR HIM. AFTER I HAD INSTRUCTED ACR TO CONTACT MIAMI CENTER, A MIAMI CENTER CTLR CALLED ME AND ADVISED THAT THE ACR PLT WANTED TO REPORT A NEAR MISS. I THEN INFORMED MY SUPVR OF THE SITUATION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: REPORTER STATED YEARS OF ATC AND PROX OF TFC. SMA APPARENTLY FLYING OVER THE TOP OF THE TCA AND WAS NOT OBSERVED UNTIL AFTER THE INCIDENT. ACFT WAS NOT SQUAWKING AND PRIMARY TARGETS HARD TO SEE IN THIS AREA. FINAL REPORT ON INCIDENT NEVER SEEN BY REPORTER, BUT CTLR WAS NOT CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. SUSPECT CONSIDERED PLT DEVIATION ON SMA OR SEE AND AVOID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.