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Medium large transport unable to meet altitude crossing restriction due to avoiding radar point out traffic.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 86711 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198805 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rbv |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 15800 msl bound upper : 17000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tower : cak |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3700 |
| ASRS Report | 86711 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 86712 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : vfr in imc |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 1200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were descending to cross rbv 10 DME at 10000' and rbv at 8000'. As we passed through 17000' approximately 35 mi southwest of rbv, center reported VFR traffic at 12 O'clock, 8 mi, same direction at 15800'. We were just entering the ragged tops of clouds and were unable to see the traffic. We leveled off and asked for vectors. By the time we passed the VFR traffic, we were unable to meet our restriction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG UNABLE TO MEET ALT CROSSING RESTRICTION DUE TO AVOIDING RADAR POINT OUT TRAFFIC.
Narrative: WE WERE DSNDING TO CROSS RBV 10 DME AT 10000' AND RBV AT 8000'. AS WE PASSED THROUGH 17000' APPROX 35 MI SW OF RBV, CENTER RPTED VFR TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK, 8 MI, SAME DIRECTION AT 15800'. WE WERE JUST ENTERING THE RAGGED TOPS OF CLOUDS AND WERE UNABLE TO SEE THE TFC. WE LEVELED OFF AND ASKED FOR VECTORS. BY THE TIME WE PASSED THE VFR TFC, WE WERE UNABLE TO MEET OUR RESTRICTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.