EMB145 flight attendant reports delay caused by inaccurate bag count during loading in baggage compa...

Attributes
ACN	871966
Time
Date	201001
Local Time Of Day	1801-2400
Place
Locale Reference	ZZZ.Airport
State Reference	US
Environment
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Parked
Person 1
Function	Flight Attendant (On Duty)
Qualification	Flight Attendant Current
Experience	Flight Attendant Airline Total 3 Flight Attendant Number Of Acft Qualified On 2 Flight Attendant Total 31 Flight Attendant Type 50
Person 2
Function	Ramp
Events
Anomaly	Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Weight And Balance

Narrative:

Ramp personnel loaded part of the cargo and passenger bags; then stopped. They then added the valet bags that passengers had left at the bottom of the stairs to go into cargo. The entire time there were 3 carts of other bags that sat by the cargo door. The ramp personnel finally added the remaining 3 carts of bags. Then we waited for the final close out for weight and balance of the aircraft. However; after 30 minutes the ramp still couldn't come up with a matching number of bags to use for the cargo weight. Even after the captain talked to the ramp 3 times they still couldn't come up with the number of bags in cargo. They had 4 separate counts to how many bags were in cargo so no one could do the final for weight and balance. So were we over weight on take off or not?

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: EMB145 Flight Attendant reports delay caused by inaccurate bag count during loading in baggage compartment; and that this is a recurring event.

Narrative: Ramp personnel loaded part of the cargo and passenger bags; then stopped. They then added the valet bags that passengers had left at the bottom of the stairs to go into cargo. The entire time there were 3 carts of other bags that sat by the cargo door. The ramp personnel finally added the remaining 3 carts of bags. Then we waited for the final close out for weight and balance of the aircraft. However; after 30 minutes the ramp still couldn't come up with a matching number of bags to use for the cargo weight. Even after the Captain talked to the ramp 3 times they still couldn't come up with the number of bags in cargo. They had 4 separate counts to how many bags were in cargo so no one could do the final for weight and balance. So were we over weight on take off or not?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

EMB145 flight attendant reports delay caused by inaccurate bag count during loading in baggage compartment; and that this is a recurring event.