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Attributes | |
ACN | 87518 |
Time | |
Date | 198805 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lhy |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : j36 enroute airway : j223 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 87518 |
Person 2 | |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
While navigating northwest on J36 about 70-80 mi west of lake henry (lhy 110.8) center called us right (north) of course and gave a steer to dunkirk (dkk 116.2). Our CDI showed on course at 7000' and drifting left (south) after that which we corrected for. In listening to a follow on discussion with an air carrier Q and air carrier right. They had the same problem. The ATC controller reports it as a daily occurrence. The problem is that with even just a 4 NM drift to the north, one comes very close to traffic on J223 out of elmira. Everyone's airborne navaids show them on course but lhy's signal is unreliable after 50-60 mi or so. Suggest that this route be checked and an earlier changeover point (now none is designated, therefore changeover is half way) be established and/or adjust J36.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT TRACK DEVIATION CAUSES ENCROACHMENT ON ADJACENT PARALLEL AIRWAY. ZNY ARTCC RADAR CTLR SAYS IT'S A DAILY OCCURRENCE.
Narrative: WHILE NAVIGATING NW ON J36 ABOUT 70-80 MI W OF LAKE HENRY (LHY 110.8) CENTER CALLED US RIGHT (N) OF COURSE AND GAVE A STEER TO DUNKIRK (DKK 116.2). OUR CDI SHOWED ON COURSE AT 7000' AND DRIFTING LEFT (S) AFTER THAT WHICH WE CORRECTED FOR. IN LISTENING TO A FOLLOW ON DISCUSSION WITH AN ACR Q AND ACR R. THEY HAD THE SAME PROB. THE ATC CTLR RPTS IT AS A DAILY OCCURRENCE. THE PROB IS THAT WITH EVEN JUST A 4 NM DRIFT TO THE N, ONE COMES VERY CLOSE TO TFC ON J223 OUT OF ELMIRA. EVERYONE'S AIRBORNE NAVAIDS SHOW THEM ON COURSE BUT LHY'S SIGNAL IS UNRELIABLE AFTER 50-60 MI OR SO. SUGGEST THAT THIS ROUTE BE CHKED AND AN EARLIER CHANGEOVER POINT (NOW NONE IS DESIGNATED, THEREFORE CHANGEOVER IS HALF WAY) BE ESTABLISHED AND/OR ADJUST J36.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.