Air carrier medium large transport on landing roll crossed intersecting runway after being instructe...

Attributes
ACN	87561
Time
Date	198805
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ric
State Reference	VA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	87561
Person 2
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

While rolling out on runway 34 at ric we received a clearance re: runway 2 which touches runway 34 at the far end. After crossing runway 2 we contacted ground control and they said we were told to hold short of runway 2. We said we had been given clearance to cross. We were then told there was 'no problem.' situations such as this where there are runways that touch, or almost touch, require much better communications than we had. A 'hold short,' or 'cleared to cross' shouldn't be given while we are in the middle of thrust reverse and stopping the aircraft. A reminder needs to also be given for a plane that is about to cross an active runway. Light signals, such as traffic lights, would be another way to assist crews in this critical phase. Weak verbal communications, no matter who is right or wrong, don't help this potentially dangerous situation.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG ON LNDG ROLL CROSSED INTERSECTING RWY AFTER BEING INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT.

Narrative: WHILE ROLLING OUT ON RWY 34 AT RIC WE RECEIVED A CLRNC RE: RWY 2 WHICH TOUCHES RWY 34 AT THE FAR END. AFTER XING RWY 2 WE CONTACTED GND CTL AND THEY SAID WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 2. WE SAID WE HAD BEEN GIVEN CLRNC TO CROSS. WE WERE THEN TOLD THERE WAS 'NO PROB.' SITUATIONS SUCH AS THIS WHERE THERE ARE RWYS THAT TOUCH, OR ALMOST TOUCH, REQUIRE MUCH BETTER COMS THAN WE HAD. A 'HOLD SHORT,' OR 'CLRED TO CROSS' SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN WHILE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THRUST REVERSE AND STOPPING THE ACFT. A REMINDER NEEDS TO ALSO BE GIVEN FOR A PLANE THAT IS ABOUT TO CROSS AN ACTIVE RWY. LIGHT SIGNALS, SUCH AS TFC LIGHTS, WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY TO ASSIST CREWS IN THIS CRITICAL PHASE. WEAK VERBAL COMS, NO MATTER WHO IS RIGHT OR WRONG, DON'T HELP THIS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier medium large transport on landing roll crossed intersecting runway after being instructed to hold short.