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Departure controller gave air carrier widebody transport turn for loop departure when flight was on flipper departure.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 87835 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198805 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 15 |
| ASRS Report | 87835 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight, lax to iad. After takeoff tower had us switch to departure control frequency. Upon checking in with departure we were given left turn to lax VOR climb to 13000'. The captain initiated the turn and I called to verify. At this time another controller came up and told us vector 220 maintain 5000'. We passed about 1500' above and 2500' abeam an small aircraft traveling in the same direction. Vectors were given on course to trm VOR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DEP CTLR GAVE ACR WDB TURN FOR LOOP DEP WHEN FLT WAS ON FLIPPER DEP.
Narrative: FLT, LAX TO IAD. AFTER TKOF TWR HAD US SWITCH TO DEP CTL FREQ. UPON CHECKING IN WITH DEP WE WERE GIVEN LEFT TURN TO LAX VOR CLIMB TO 13000'. THE CAPT INITIATED THE TURN AND I CALLED TO VERIFY. AT THIS TIME ANOTHER CTLR CAME UP AND TOLD US VECTOR 220 MAINTAIN 5000'. WE PASSED ABOUT 1500' ABOVE AND 2500' ABEAM AN SMA TRAVELING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. VECTORS WERE GIVEN ON COURSE TO TRM VOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.