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Attributes | |
ACN | 887596 |
Time | |
Date | 201005 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SCT.TRACON |
State Reference | CA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | MU-2 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was told to turn to 230 intercept the cno localizer and maintain 4;200. He read back descending to 4;300 turning to 230 to intercept the localizer. I corrected him by saying negative maintain four thousand..forty two hundred. He read back four thousand..forty-two. I saw him descend to 4;000 MSL and said 'verify four thousand two hundred.' he said negative I thought you said four thousand forty two. The MVA was 4;200. My phraseology was misleading. I should have said maintain four thousand two hundred...forty two hundred; but I didn't complete the first part which caused confusion. It never occurred to me that a pilot would fly 4;042 ft and think that it was an assigned IFR altitude. That's why I didn't correct him when he said descending to forty two.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SCT Controller described MVA event when an aircraft descended below the issued altitude of 4;200 to 4;042; the reporter acknowledging phraseology utilized was misleading.
Narrative: Aircraft X was told to turn to 230 intercept the CNO localizer and maintain 4;200. He read back descending to 4;300 turning to 230 to intercept the localizer. I corrected him by saying negative maintain four thousand..forty two hundred. He read back four thousand..forty-two. I saw him descend to 4;000 MSL and said 'verify four thousand two hundred.' he said negative I thought you said four thousand forty two. The MVA was 4;200. My phraseology was misleading. I should have said maintain four thousand two hundred...forty two hundred; but I didn't complete the first part which caused confusion. It never occurred to me that a pilot would fly 4;042 FT and think that it was an assigned IFR altitude. That's why I didn't correct him when he said descending to forty two.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.