Ferry flight with navigation light inoperative.

Attributes
ACN	88863
Time
Date	198806
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : grc airport : grb
State Reference	WI
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 750
ASRS Report	88863
Person 2
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Aircraft
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

I was asked to ferry on aircraft from grb to mqt for maintenance. After doing a walk around we found a navigation light out. I called dispatch and told them we could not go because of the light being out. Dispatch said I could. I felt the ferry permit did not allow us to go outside the part 91 regulations. I then requested to talk to our chief pilot. He indicated this was done all the time and it was legal. He said I could also check with our director of quality control. I also did this. He told me that our principal operations inspector told him it was legal for us to ferry at night like this as long as our other lights were working. They were so based on this I departed. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter advised strobe lights were working but he still felt the wing position lights should be working. Chief pilot did not indicate which far he was using for his information. Has heard nothing from the FAA reference the flight and feels the incident is closed.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FERRY FLT WITH NAVIGATION LIGHT INOP.

Narrative: I WAS ASKED TO FERRY ON ACFT FROM GRB TO MQT FOR MAINT. AFTER DOING A WALK AROUND WE FOUND A NAVIGATION LIGHT OUT. I CALLED DISPATCH AND TOLD THEM WE COULD NOT GO BECAUSE OF THE LIGHT BEING OUT. DISPATCH SAID I COULD. I FELT THE FERRY PERMIT DID NOT ALLOW US TO GO OUTSIDE THE PART 91 REGS. I THEN REQUESTED TO TALK TO OUR CHIEF PLT. HE INDICATED THIS WAS DONE ALL THE TIME AND IT WAS LEGAL. HE SAID I COULD ALSO CHECK WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF QUALITY CTL. I ALSO DID THIS. HE TOLD ME THAT OUR PRINCIPAL OPERATIONS INSPECTOR TOLD HIM IT WAS LEGAL FOR US TO FERRY AT NIGHT LIKE THIS AS LONG AS OUR OTHER LIGHTS WERE WORKING. THEY WERE SO BASED ON THIS I DEPARTED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION: REPORTER ADVISED STROBE LIGHTS WERE WORKING BUT HE STILL FELT THE WING POSITION LIGHTS SHOULD BE WORKING. CHIEF PLT DID NOT INDICATE WHICH FAR HE WAS USING FOR HIS INFORMATION. HAS HEARD NOTHING FROM THE FAA REFERENCE THE FLT AND FEELS THE INCIDENT IS CLOSED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.