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Attributes | |
ACN | 89114 |
Time | |
Date | 198806 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sdf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 12500 |
ASRS Report | 89114 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 16250 |
ASRS Report | 89113 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After a normal approach (runway 26R, automatic speed brake armed as per flight manual), T/D occurred about 1500' down the runway. Aircraft skipped slightly (1 or 2' in air), then the automatic spoilers deployed causing aircraft to sink rapidly and T/D firmly. About 15 mins later the second officer found the tail skid had been compressed. This was caused by the late and untimely automatic deployment of the ground spoilers. I have seen this occur many times in the past. I have also seen these automatic spoilers work perfectly. Since pilots cannot count on this automatic procedure, I recommend the following: deactivate all large transport automatic spoilers (I believe the only operational penalty is less landing weight on some wet runways), and change flight manuals and training procedures to the original mfr's speed brake procedure upon T/D. This will also standardize the procedure for all model large transport's in an operator's fleet.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT TAIL SKID STRIKE AFTER LNDG. FLT CREW SAYS LATE AUTO SPOILER ACTIVATION AFTER A BOUNCED LNDG CAUSED THE PROBLEM.
Narrative: AFTER A NORMAL APCH (RWY 26R, AUTO SPD BRAKE ARMED AS PER FLT MANUAL), T/D OCCURRED ABOUT 1500' DOWN THE RWY. ACFT SKIPPED SLIGHTLY (1 OR 2' IN AIR), THEN THE AUTO SPOILERS DEPLOYED CAUSING ACFT TO SINK RAPIDLY AND T/D FIRMLY. ABOUT 15 MINS LATER THE S/O FOUND THE TAIL SKID HAD BEEN COMPRESSED. THIS WAS CAUSED BY THE LATE AND UNTIMELY AUTOMATIC DEPLOYMENT OF THE GND SPOILERS. I HAVE SEEN THIS OCCUR MANY TIMES IN THE PAST. I HAVE ALSO SEEN THESE AUTO SPOILERS WORK PERFECTLY. SINCE PLTS CANNOT COUNT ON THIS AUTO PROC, I RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING: DEACTIVATE ALL LGT AUTO SPOILERS (I BELIEVE THE ONLY OPERATIONAL PENALTY IS LESS LNDG WT ON SOME WET RWYS), AND CHANGE FLT MANUALS AND TRNING PROCS TO THE ORIGINAL MFR'S SPD BRAKE PROC UPON T/D. THIS WILL ALSO STANDARDIZE THE PROC FOR ALL MODEL LGT'S IN AN OPERATOR'S FLEET.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.